**PADME SPOILER** you've been warned...
#78
Posted 19 May 2005 - 04:35 PM
#79
Posted 19 May 2005 - 08:23 PM
there was no complication in the birth... for her to suddenly cark it during delivery, was lame. There was nothing mediaclly wrong with her for her to give up. she was not injured... ani choked her, but that's a different kind of injury all together.
she had nothing to lay down and not fight against...
she wasn't an elf from the silmarillion.... for god's sake...
it was not a tragedy...
she married a jerk who acted like a creppy stalker between bouts of violent psychosis and mass murder...
it's not exactly something that came as a suprise to her...
it was a long time comming...
nothing to loose the will to live with instant gratification over...
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#80
Posted 19 May 2005 - 09:07 PM
#81
Posted 19 May 2005 - 09:11 PM
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#82
Posted 19 May 2005 - 10:03 PM
I lost the will to live whilst watching this travesty but I didn't die . My money is on ole Georgie changing the scene where Luke asks leia about her real mother. probably to something like "leia do you remember our real mother, you know the one that crapped out on us at birth"
#83
Posted 19 May 2005 - 10:08 PM
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#84
Posted 20 May 2005 - 02:53 AM
I dont see the problem with Leia remembering her adoptive mother as her real mother. Unless you want to hate these films that is, which surely couldnt be the case...
Nothing to do with the Force, its just that Bail didnt get the chance to tell her she was adopted before he got blown to bits.
I think the whole point of Padmes death was that Anakin actually caused what he was trying to prevent.
#85
Posted 20 May 2005 - 03:19 AM
Here's the story:
After Anakin force chokes Padme, he has his big sabre fight with Obi-Wan, etc. When that's over, Obi flies Padme to a ship/medical facility where Yoda and Bail Organa are, but she is not taken there because she goes into labor, no; she's taken there because Anakin nearly killed her earlier. She is then saved and brought back to health, but as the medical droid tells Obi and Yoda (paraphrased):
"We don't know what's wrong. Physically she's fine, but we're still losing her. It's as if she's lost the will to live. We have to act fast if we want to save the children."
Padme does not go into labor and give birth, the droids perform emergency surgery on her to save the unborn babies because she's dying; because she's lost the will to live. Then, immediately after giving birth to Leia (Luke came out first), Padme looks at Obi-Wan, who's beside her side, tells him that there's still good in Anakin and dies.
What I find conflicting is that if Lucas wants us to believe that Padme died of a broken heart because Anakin went evil, then why did he write it so that she tells Obi-Wan there's still good in Anakin? If she dies because Anakin goes evil, wouldn't the fact that she truly believes he still has some good in him keep her alive?
#86
Posted 20 May 2005 - 03:33 AM
I refuse to believe that in a civilization that has achieved space flight and can have robots build an animatronic body for a guy who's been burnt to a crisp and lost three limbs, a woman can die from grief.
#87
Posted 20 May 2005 - 03:58 AM
Well I must say starwars is populated by Manic Depressives then cos I clearly remember Leia saying that her mum was "very sad" quite a nice nod towards her real mother being sad over what happened about anakin.
Actually I just figured it out. The reason Leia can talk about her real mother, damn it's so simply and obvious. Starwars 4,5,6 are set after 1,2,3 right, sooooooooo she must have seen 1,2,3 in the cinema
#88
Posted 20 May 2005 - 04:03 AM
Is this the "kind and sad" character we're supposed to sympathize with?
Jariten- Bull. That's apologist bull. Admit it you'll feel better. Which of these sounds more likely:
"Leia, do you remember your foster mother? I'm asking you about her even though she has nothing to do with anything."
or
"Leia, do you remember your real mother, who incidentally is also my mother and thus is a subject we would both be interested in."
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#89
Posted 20 May 2005 - 04:29 AM
#90
Posted 20 May 2005 - 05:11 AM
how would anyone know they've been adopted unless they've found out they've been adopted?
yes yes because i'm an apologist gusher blah blah blah
because its a fairy tale, its a dumb space opera, and it has been since 1977.
This post has been edited by jariten: 20 May 2005 - 05:12 AM