[jariten]

I thought it was always centered on Anikan. Which is bullshit because, accept it. Lucas makes this up as he goes along.

i meant that Palpatine is at the centre of the story and hes the catalyst for everything. even if you dont take the new films into account its still true.

Well, they did some cool force magic, which they pretty much ignored after the opening sequence. the higher-ups didn’t work at all. the freaking Senate was more efficient than the Jedi masters for jedi’s sake.

when i said the way they worked i meant it like- theyre intergalactic sheriffs who go on peacekeeping missions and so on. the republic doesnt need an army cos its all relativly quiet and a bloody trade dispute raises all hell.

endor was more idllyic IMHO than the places you mentioned

well yeah, the story goes full circle

[Paladin]

Using other stuff for inspiration is fine. But what Lucas did with the Pod Race was replicate the chariot race of Ben Hurr down to the last detail - even having the bad guy use some trickery to damage the other guy's pod. It was embarrassing.

I did a lot of that before, and that's why I feel embarassed about my older works (with some exceptions of course, as some very far more original than most). Now whenever I write anything, I concentrate on originality more than anything, and when I do get inspiration, I do whatever I can to make it something I smile at when I remember it, not something I grimace at.

P.S. If you want me to give you the full details of the chapter I mentioned, I'll give them to you via PM so you can see if you like it or not.

Well, they did some cool force magic, which they pretty much ignored after the opening sequence. the higher-ups didn’t work at all. the freaking Senate was more efficient than the Jedi masters for jedi’s sake.

I agree. They made the Jedi the coolest, most mysterious and mystic type of people in the OT, and instead of living up to that expectation, they create a bunch of robed morons that are as incompitent as a sack of potatos.

[Mnesymone]

Umm... jariten.

You say the George always said Star Wars is always about anakin.
I always say that if you run over a black cat on a moonless night in a '67 Mustang you'll have 7 years good luck and 13 bastard children.
That doesn't actually mean its true.

George only started saying that when he went into the PT. Back when he made anH he mentioned anakin only briefly as part of fleshing out the character of Luke.

"i meant that Palpatine is at the centre of the story and hes the catalyst for everything. even if you dont take the new films into account its still true."

Sorry, but you'll have to explain that one to me. The Emperor - not even as Palpatine - is mentioned in passing by Grand Moff Tarkin. He appears only briefly in Empire Strikes Back - we only meet him in the flesh in RotJ - and even then, he's not the catalyst for events - events happen in his presence, but all he does is sit in his powerchair with bad posture.

"the republic doesnt need an army cos its all relativly quiet and a bloody trade dispute raises all hell."

Yah, because they didn't have an army.

"well yeah, the story goes full circle"

Dont just leave it at that - flesh it out a bit.
In what way full circle.
-also, full circle doesn't work with prequels of any kind-

And Coruscant wasn't idyllic - it was the concrete jungle taken to extremes.
And the commute to work and back is a bitch.

[civilian_number_two]

I've said this elsewhere, but here it is again:

STAR WARS was not about "Anikin." That name doesn't even appear until two films after STAR WARS. Even if STAR WARS is supposed to be about Darth Vader, why does he get so little screen time?

Vader is the heavy; that's his entire role until JEDI, and even there the movie is mostly about the other characters. You know, the heroes. The argument that STAR WARS was about Vader would be like arguing that DIE HARD was all about Hans Gruber (who gets way more lines than Vader ever did).

The analogy, again: THE GODFATHER ... shudder ... "trilogy." In the third film, there's a new boss for the family, played by Andy Garcia. Does he end up taking over the movie? No, because the series was always about Michael Corleone. So what happens with ths new boss in place? We follow the story of Michael and how he lives outside the seat of power. When Michael disappeared from New York in the first film, where did we go? Did we stay with Vito? Not so much, no; we followed Michael to Sicily. You want to say THE GODFATHER series was all about Michael, see, you can prove it.

etc.

Had STAR WARS "always been about Anikin," we'd have seen more of him in the original trilogy. The prequel fixation on "fleshing out" the story of Vader will never actually work to make him a more interesting character in the OT. Why not, you say? Isn't he more interesting now that we know there was a history to him, that he was once a force for good? No, not actually: he's only interesting in that context if we get any hint that there is even a modicum of soul searching. Like one scene where he cries in the arms of a hooker. Once scene would almost do it. What did we get in the OT? A villain for two films, an uncomfortable morality play in the third. But the second trilogy, however you try to redefine it, was ALWAYS about Luke.

[use the force]

If anybody watched the preview for Episode III, we see Anakin's eyes are yellow...once he has turned to the dark side presumably...

Unless George Lucas is telling us that our eyes turn yellow when we become evil, and this is some sort of biological function, why are Anakin's (old dying egg-headed man's) eyes in ROTJ normal? I guess the answer is they turn back into normal when you are "born again."

I imagine this is the case, but if it is that when you become a Sith apprentce you turn into an evil demon and your eyes turn yellow...then why is Christopher Lee normal looking?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You answered your question in your topic title. Episode III hasn't come out yet DUDE. So watch and learn. IT's pretty silly to say thats a continuity erroe when the 3rd movie hasn't come out yet. Until you watch ROTS don't bother making those claims.

[jariten]

he's only interesting in that context if we get any hint that there is even a modicum of soul searching

Vaders attachment to Luke is a good start. Where did this guy come from? Hes still got a heart somewhere under that metal, hence he was once human, so what made him turn bad? For me, its about Anakins altruistic gestures- see all of Episode 1. When do these actions resurface? In Ep 6 when he sacrifices himself and kills Palpatine, thus restoring the 'balance' or whatever you want to call it. Are you suggesting that Vader exhibits no traces of humanity in the OT?