[Amber-Nicole]

That'd be the same idiot, Hec.

[Heccubus]

I figured. I was also going to go off on a tirade about how the spiked hair/cargo pants sect isn't exactly "Goth" per se, but there's no point anymore. The subculture has lost its reason for existing to begin with. I mean, what started as a reaction to the new wave and new romantic movement has turned into a fashion trend. Tsk.

[Jane Sherwood]

Because if there's one thing that never changes, its all the joy that comes out of taking away a teenager's right to their individuality. Teens LOVE that!

And nothing says "individuality" more than dressing up like everybody else and following prefabricated fashions and ideas associated with supposed "underground" or "subversive" social groups, which in truth these days are exactly the same as the groups they so devotedly claim to despise, only they’re just on the other end of the spectrum!

It's nonconformity through conformity.

[Amber-Nicole]

I was also going to go off on a tirade about how the spiked hair/cargo pants sect isn't exactly "Goth" per se, but there's no point anymore.

(Heccubus)

I know that style isn't necesarrily "Goth," but I group it as such, because everyone at my school who uses that style hangs out in the goth group. Or "the freaks," as they like to be known as.

[Heccubus]

And nothing says "individuality" more than dressing up like everybody else and following prefabricated fashions and ideas associated with supposed "underground" or "subversive" social groups, which in truth these days are exactly the same as the groups they so devotedly claim to despise, only they’re just on the other end of the spectrum!

It's nonconformity through conformity.

If you take everything at face value, there's no such thing as individuality. Individuality is all in the mind. I know there's another black-clad, skinny geek out there who probably has an affinity for classic video games. That doesn't mean that I can't consider myself an individual in my own right.

[J m HofMarN]

I don't know what kind of wusses are in school these days but when my school tried to stop the grunge look by banning torn up jeans a fuckton of people wore torn up jeans and continued to wear them all the way through the ban until it ended.

I also don't grasp how twelve people wearing black can be intimidating in a large school. I'd be more worried about the thirty jack asses wearing football uniforms, they're the ones who do the intimidating, idiots.

If anyone in that school is worth their salt this bitch is getting sued horribly.

I agree about the goth thing, it's become very silly. And the popularity of punk REALLY smokes me. Its exactly what happened to rap (Public enemy became P diddy) Rock (we went from evil rock to whiney pretentious crap like Coldplay and Nickelback) and now instead of the offspring or Anti Flag we get bands like those gents who appear naked all the time and sing about girls and other perfectly normal things.

When things get popular they suck. The only exception is Grunge, because Kurt put an end to that before pop culture could eat his soul.