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One saga or two trilogies? What do you see I-VI as?
#1
Posted 01 November 2005 - 07:56 PM
Do you see the saga as one saga, divided into six parts, or two trilogies, telling two different stories at two different times?
I see the saga as two trilogies with two different styles which work better by themselves then together.
What do you see the saga as?
I see the saga as two trilogies with two different styles which work better by themselves then together.
What do you see the saga as?
#5
Posted 02 November 2005 - 10:18 AM
Obviously I see it as two separate trilogies. I try to imagine them being as unrelated as possible.
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#6
Posted 02 November 2005 - 07:21 PM
i see one trilogy (the OT)
a duet of crap (1&2)
and some other film that has about as much to do with any of them as the ewok movies...
the PT are practically fan films...
a duet of crap (1&2)
and some other film that has about as much to do with any of them as the ewok movies...
the PT are practically fan films...
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#8
Posted 05 November 2005 - 02:08 PM
I definately see it as two trilogies with two different styles. However i feel that they still relate. If you look at episode 1, the style is very different from episode 2 and 3. Episode 1's style is fairy taleish and i find it a very beautiful and good story, but it doesnt really fit with the other movies. 2 and 3 go good together, and of course episode 4,5,6 are eternally bound as perfect star wars greatness.
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#9
Posted 05 November 2005 - 06:11 PM
The saga should NOT be viewed 1-6. All newcomers MUST watch them 4-6, 1-3. Watching them 1-6 makes it (supposedly) a saga about Darth Vader. Once you get to IV, Darth Vader's character is not as main as it was before. Why are so many things mentioned in the PT but not mentioned in the OT? Just proves how Lucas rushed the prequels, how he didn't blend the PT into the OT that well, and how is a poor planner and storyteller.
#10
Posted 11 November 2005 - 12:15 AM
I see it more like two stories. One is the OT, which is the first story, and then there's the PT, which is a different take on the backstory.
It's like King Arthur. I read Le Morte D'Arthur and to me that's the "real legend" of King Arthur (even though that's an oxymoron, but let's say it's the "definitive" story for me). Now I want to read some backstory, so I pick up Sir Gawain and the Green Knight or the story of Parsifal and the Grail. Great cool stuff, and nice backstory. Doesn't gel completely with LMD, but I'm cool with that. I just keep them seperate in my mind, even though there is the tenuous connection. In the above case actually I believe those other stories are earlier, but I hope you get the point.
Lucas has said he "always intended" for us now to watch them "in order" 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (and of course 4-6 in his new super special editions). This was ONLY possible to do as of May of this year (28 years after the release of the first movie!), and for many of us, not possible until November with the DVD.
In any case, Lucas has also said that he always intended for people to see them all in the theater. And the OT hasn't been back in theaters since early 1998. The Prequels haven't come back to theaters since they first came out (have you seen TPM shown anywhere on the big screen since 1999? I haven't, or AOTC since 2002, and ROTS seems to be gone).
Whatever he always intended (or now intends) for most of us that's just not possible, and we have our own methods of determining how things go.
Personally I'd rather interpret the prequels in light of the OT, rather than the other way around. Even though I understand the idea of chronology, the gaffes in the prequels were inexcusable since Lucas had the OT for 20 some odd years to compare notes with. Even his tinkering didn't really do anything to correct his oversights, so he should have crafted the prequels around them. As it is, there is something of a continuity break, so they're more like two stories using the same characters and universe, rather than the continuing adventures in the same timeline. I also have a hard time, anymore, with the notion that the EU and the movies are all the same. But then if we can hurdle all the contradictions between the OT and PT, we can surely do the same for the movies and the EU (retconned and cleaned up portion of it anyway!).
It's not as bad as Highlander continuity, but there you go.
It's like King Arthur. I read Le Morte D'Arthur and to me that's the "real legend" of King Arthur (even though that's an oxymoron, but let's say it's the "definitive" story for me). Now I want to read some backstory, so I pick up Sir Gawain and the Green Knight or the story of Parsifal and the Grail. Great cool stuff, and nice backstory. Doesn't gel completely with LMD, but I'm cool with that. I just keep them seperate in my mind, even though there is the tenuous connection. In the above case actually I believe those other stories are earlier, but I hope you get the point.
Lucas has said he "always intended" for us now to watch them "in order" 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (and of course 4-6 in his new super special editions). This was ONLY possible to do as of May of this year (28 years after the release of the first movie!), and for many of us, not possible until November with the DVD.
In any case, Lucas has also said that he always intended for people to see them all in the theater. And the OT hasn't been back in theaters since early 1998. The Prequels haven't come back to theaters since they first came out (have you seen TPM shown anywhere on the big screen since 1999? I haven't, or AOTC since 2002, and ROTS seems to be gone).
Whatever he always intended (or now intends) for most of us that's just not possible, and we have our own methods of determining how things go.
Personally I'd rather interpret the prequels in light of the OT, rather than the other way around. Even though I understand the idea of chronology, the gaffes in the prequels were inexcusable since Lucas had the OT for 20 some odd years to compare notes with. Even his tinkering didn't really do anything to correct his oversights, so he should have crafted the prequels around them. As it is, there is something of a continuity break, so they're more like two stories using the same characters and universe, rather than the continuing adventures in the same timeline. I also have a hard time, anymore, with the notion that the EU and the movies are all the same. But then if we can hurdle all the contradictions between the OT and PT, we can surely do the same for the movies and the EU (retconned and cleaned up portion of it anyway!).
It's not as bad as Highlander continuity, but there you go.
#11
Posted 11 November 2005 - 10:10 AM
George Lucas ALSO states the saga should be viewed 1,2,3,4,5,6. Like the PT itself, and the SEs, this is just another Lucas attempt to bring the OT down to the PT's level. This is what really pisses me off about Lucas. As Lord Aquaman put, this just simply proves how much Lucas is full of bull$hit, and that he has no idea what he is talking about.
Watching the saga in order 1 to 6 completely ruins the impact of the OT.
Watching the saga in order 1 to 6 completely ruins the impact of the OT.
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