This post has been edited by BigStupidDogFacedArse: 27 May 2008 - 01:39 PM
Indiana Jones-The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
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Posted 27 May 2008 - 01:38 PM
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Posted 27 May 2008 - 02:30 PM
#18
Posted 27 May 2008 - 03:03 PM
Why spend money for monkeys etc. when even people who know the film is going to suck will pay to see it anyway? Some of them will even buy the DVD just to complete their collection of movies that they never liked in the first place. Spielberg is laughing his ass off right now.
#19
Posted 27 May 2008 - 03:56 PM
but Indy is partially George's idea as well. So it's not like Steven can completely dismiss George's input, he has to be willing to accept a few of his boneheaded suggestions. But I always envision Steven laughing in George's face and patronizing him at will for the most part.
#20
Posted 27 May 2008 - 05:15 PM
You can't go through life thinking that Spielberg is a god and Lucas an idiot. Lucas is worth about a billion dollars more than Spielberg, not that that has anything to do with being a better film maker, but if there is any patronizing attitude going on I bet it is the other way around.
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Posted 27 May 2008 - 05:52 PM
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Posted 27 May 2008 - 05:57 PM
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#23
Posted 27 May 2008 - 06:07 PM
I don't want to waste my money on seeing a movie with a plot that a child could come up with so tell me how they got there and I might waste my money on that film.
Since George Lucas is the father of the Star Wars and Indiana Jones franchise, by raping it has he committed incest?
-Jimmy McTavern, 1938.
#24
Posted 27 May 2008 - 06:57 PM
So you think Lucas said to Spielberg "This film isn't artrificial enough, let's put in some stupid CGI buttfuck fest", and Spielberg said OK?
The fault belongs to the fans, since they obviously spent heaps of cash to make this the biggest opening weekend ever. Spielberg said he was making it for the fans, and now they have it and everyone is happy.
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The KGB got into the warehouse because the warehouse is a big hanger in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the Nevada desert. Kind of makes sense, actually, like that place in Arizona or somewhere that has all those classic aeroplanes lined up for miles in every direction just wasting away in the heat.
#25
Posted 27 May 2008 - 08:50 PM
I remember reading once that one idea they toyed with was Indy finding the Lost City of Atlantis, with the title allegedly having been Indiana Jones & The Lost Continent.
This post has been edited by Lord Aquaman: 27 May 2008 - 08:51 PM
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an obi-wan to go.
#26
Posted 27 May 2008 - 10:20 PM
OK, spoilers on, silly as it seems after the above posts:
One thing I had hoped was that they would not spend much time paying homage to earlier works, that they would instead make something that evoked the ideas that inspired the originals. So, this film homaged THE WILD ONE, the 50's hotrod fixation, stories of space aliens (modernised to incorporate the Roswell conspiracies), the Tarzan movies (a 30s-40s phenomenon), THE NAKED JUNGLE with its man-eating ants, and of course the over-the-top Russian villains and villainesses of cold war B-Movies. So far so good. To the complaint that we see the warehouse that housed the Ark of the Covenant, well ok. But in this film it is identified as AREA 51, so of course they go there. This is an example of a clever reference. The stolen-from-2001-and-repeated-ad-nauseum-in-the-STAR Wars-series line "I've got a bad feeling about this?" Well, ok, that was dumb.
I was happy to hear Karen Allen would be in this one, but sad that she was so poorly utilised. She was one tough lady in the first movie, while in this one she was hardly even a side character. Inevitable I'm sure, but sad all the same. Shia the beef, set to replace Jones Jr? Also dumb. This isn't a series with any more longevity, methinks. Best not beat that dead horse too much.
The Indiana Jones movies, IMO, are a lot like James Bond: even the ones that are mostly ok are nothing when compared with whichever early one got you to like the series in the first place, be it FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE or GOLDFINGER (I came in late, and got into Bond with FOR YOUR EYES ONLY, which I still think is Roger Moore's best). I think there just won't be another RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, sadly. There was only so much "good" nostalgia to carry it.
One obvious complaint is the questionable action (how many bad shots does it take to make up a Russian platoon?), especially the questionable physics, much of which has already been mentioned here (the magnetism, the car-mounted swordfight, the multiple drops from heights), etc. The obvious complaint is that the original films used stuntmen and models, so the physics had to work. CGI allows anything you want, so directors and editors too frequently don't see how impossible everything is. And yeah, I agree with everyone on the CGI groundhogs. That shit ain't funny.
All in all, a typical action film, neither offensive nor memorable. I won't go on record as saying it was offensive to me in the same way that LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD was.
#27
Posted 28 May 2008 - 12:07 PM
I guess my line up goes like this:
Raiders
Crusade
Temple of Doom
Crystal Skull
If I wanted to be fair, Temple and Crystal are tied. I agree about the Bond comparison. You can enjoy the odd film and discard the ones you disliked. But it's obvious to me that Bond will definately endure and Indy will not. The series is exhausted so you'll have to hit up Tomb Raider if you're in the mood for a an archelogical action flick.
#28
Posted 28 May 2008 - 11:38 PM
One thing that struck me while watching this is that Cate Blanchett is 38. For a gal who's allegedly a year younger than me, that Aussie has great skin. Damn. I'd go Down Under!
#29
Posted 03 June 2008 - 01:46 AM
I think I'll do the same with Skulls.
So, what are the rest of your DVD collections going to look like?
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Posted 04 June 2008 - 09:55 PM
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