[barend]

http://news.ninemsn.....aspx?id=379076

Key characters such as Anakin Skywalker and Padme Amidala will be joined by new heroes like Anakin's padawan learner, Ahsoka.

Awsome!

[Despondent]

Padawack

[Helena]

Key characters such as Anakin Skywalker and Padme Amidala will be joined by new heroes like Anakin's padawan learner, Ahsoka.

...the fuck? Even if Anakin were anywhere close to being responsible and mature enough to take on a Padawan (which he isn't), he was only a Knight for 2 years at most and that was during a war. When did he get the time to take on a Padawan learner?

[jerfus17]

...the fuck? Even if Anakin were anywhere close to being responsible and mature enough to take on a Padawan (which he isn't), he was only a Knight for 2 years at most and that was during a war. When did he get the time to take on a Padawan learner?

I thought the freaking "Jedi Council" from Ep3 told him he couldn't be a master. Only masters can have apprentices right? ... and besides .. Anakin is still Obi-Wan's apprentice, how can he have one if he still is one?? Stupid ... but that's GL for you. As usual, Lucas cares nothing about story or continuity of the timeline, he just wants to make more money by selling shit like the prequels and this new piece of junk. I mean, after seeing the crap that was Ep1-3, did anyone actually expect anything but more of the same garbage from Lucas, honestly?? The only good thing about this is that all that fake CG looking stuff will probably work fine as a cartoon - you probably won't be able to tell a difference since the characters in the new films were all basically cartoons anyway (about on par with "Who Framed Roger-Rabbit" in my opinion, no offense to Roger-Rabbit).

[jerfus17]

The trailer for anyone who is interested:

New Clone Wars Trailer

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Just watched the trailer (thanks to Chefelf's link). As expected, the effects looked no different than the prequels except for the few live-acting human characters (McGregor, Jackson, Christiansan, Portman and .... were there anymore?). The ships, the clones, the droids ... they all looked like cartoons in the prequel films ... and they look just the same in the cartoon. BECAUSE THEY ARE FREAKING CARTOONS!!!!

[barend]

...the fuck? Even if Anakin were anywhere close to being responsible and mature enough to take on a Padawan (which he isn't), he was only a Knight for 2 years at most and that was during a war. When did he get the time to take on a Padawan learner?

Yeah, I thought you'd like that.

For some reason you were the first person I thought of when I read it myself, like a pre-echo of a scream of disgust from the other side of the globe.

[Helena]

I thought the freaking "Jedi Council" from Ep3 told him he couldn't be a master. Only masters can have apprentices right? ... and besides .. Anakin is still Obi-Wan's apprentice, how can he have one if he still is one??

As I understand from my sketchy EU knowledge, having the rank of 'Jedi Master' is different from being a 'Master' in the sense of one who trains an apprentice - also, I think Anakin has become a Knight by the time of Ep3. It's still fucking stupid, though.

[Chefelf]

As I understand from my sketchy EU knowledge, having the rank of 'Jedi Master' is different from being a 'Master' in the sense of one who trains an apprentice - also, I think Anakin has become a Knight by the time of Ep3.

If we struggle to remember the SW movies prior to the PT we may remember Obi-Wan stating that he thought he could train Anakin as well as Yoda but it turned out he couldn't. This would lead us to believe that the Jedi weren't originally intended to have so rigid a ranking system as they ended up having in the PT.

This would lead us to believe that the Jedi had some sort of training system but that they were free to go about things on their own as well.

It's still fucking stupid, though.

Well said. I agree.

[Helena]

On the plus side, at least we understand now why the PT-era Jedi are such terrible fighters. "Master, I got my robe caught in my zipper again." "Not now, Padawan, I'm in mortal combat with a dozen Separatist battle droids."

[sesame_street_hustler]

There are no "new star wars movies" that's just another fanboy wet dream

its not a fanboy wet dream, they will happen.

the big ticket question is "when"

there is far too much money at stake, and hollywood is well aware of it.

so aware of it, that if Lucas refuses to make 7,8,9 and/or 10,11, 12 while he is alive, you can bet soon after he dies there will be a multitude of studios ensuing legal litigation and the likewise in dire attempt to acquire rights to the franchise to embark on making more films.

my bet that Fox wont let go of its cash cow, but Fox will make more films just as soon as they can.

Lucas is the only one preventing more films from being made, once he (and his rights) are out of the way, star wars is back in full force.

[Toru-chan]

my bet that Fox wont let go of its cash cow, but Fox will make more films just as soon as they can. Lucas is the only one preventing more films from being made, once he (and his rights) are out of the way, star wars is back in full force.

Example: Alien and Predator. Both a great series with fine starts that ended up being the IP of FOX, which FOX subsequently ran into the ground (yet still keep making money off). Given the choice between something they know and something they don't, the public go for what they know, even if it's previously turned out to be crap. There's a great body of Scifi and fantasy work yet to be made of the big screen, yet instead we keep seeing decomposing rubbish continually put on the big screen. Why didn't Lucas take something new and put it on the big screen, instead of running Star Wars into the ground? (1) Ego, (2) He knows Star Wars will make more money than anything new.

[njamilla]

I found out a couple of weeks ago that the TV show will debut as a movie. And then I jumped for glee!

My new book's coming out at just about that time, and I'm going to ride its coattails hard. Yes, it's about making a buck. But at least there should be a good product. OK, my plug's finished.

CGI: Yup, I completely agree about the CGI and actor's thing. In the DVD commentary, GL even told the CGI people that the clone troopers in EP II looked like they were created by CGI people. That's the thing with actors. It's a craft that they've been working on their whole life. It's not something that can be penned by the writer.

Clonetrooper Armor: Yeap, not a single costume made. It makes all the difference on a set. Can you imagine how Leia would've sounded if it were just Prowse and the officer at his side with the stormtroopers to be added later? When we filmed the stormtrooper scenes for Revelations, there was a vibe in the air that couldn't be created with CGI characters.

Suspension of Belief: Boy, can I have a field day with this one! An insider on the EP II set told me that Nick Gillard went to fight clubs (i.e. hand-to-hand fighting) in Australia for his Jedi instead of fencing, kendo, and choreography schools. Instead of trained, noble knights, he got street fighters. With EP III, there was the tendency to enhance Jedi powers with CGI, like the aforementioned Dooku's somersault. Now, with the new cartoon and the video game (Unleashed), all of the Jedi powers are going to look like Beijing opera moves.

Bantha Poo: ROFLOL. Whdt'dja get for for Halloween? Bantha Poo. What'dja get for Christmas? Bantha Poo.

Anakin's Padawan: I can just see Ashoka (sp?) rolling her eyes behind Anakin's back when he starts whining about something. But you have to admit, it's more material for the next Family Guy and Robot Chicken special.

The Franchise: We'll see what happens with the franchise after Lucas. SW goes into public domain 70 years after the Lucas's death. James Joyce scholar's have been waiting for 2012 because his son's niggard control over excerpt permissions. Apparently, there's a pact around the world in which scholars will raise a brew in Joyce's honor that night. Will we be doing the same for SW? Man, I hope so, but I just turned 40 last year so I probably won't.

Shit, Fuck, Piss: I had to say that because I can on this website. (Thanks Chef!)

[Chefelf]

Shit, Fuck, Piss: I had to say that because I can on this website. (Thanks Chef!)

That's what I'm here for.

[Radu094]

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This would lead us to believe that the Jedi weren't originally intended to have so rigid a ranking system as they ended up having in the PT.

This would lead us to believe that the Jedi had some sort of training system but that they were free to go about things on their own as well.

Ah, the good ol' days, when being a Jedi actually made sense. I just loved how the Jedi order resembled that of monks , living a lonely, somehow separated life. There was so much mistery and appeal to that story.


Now the Jedi order has a Jedi Council ,a Jedi Public Library, a Jedi Bar-dash-FastFood, a Jedi Kindergarden and a Jedi Public Transportation System.

[Toru-chan]

CGI: Yup, I completely agree about the CGI and actor's thing.

"George Lucas? He's more CGI than Human these days."

Terrence Stamp complained one day he was scheduled to shoot a scene with Natalie. "Where's Natalie?" he asks. "We gave her today off. See that piece of A4 on the post there? That's Natalie." The crew cares more about the CGI than anything else, and that cost them.

Clonetrooper Armor: Yeap, not a single costume made. It makes all the difference on a set.

That was just the dumbest boast. How expensive is it to make the costumes and stick actors inside them, as opposed to all the crapping around with CGI. I'll bet it cost them more and the result was worse.

like the aforementioned Dooku's somersault.

Yes, the movies have already turned into cartoons.

Bantha Poo: ROFLOL.

Me too. What a classic.

Robot Chicken special.

Robot Chicken was a classic that GL should learn from: If you can't be good, at least be funny.

The Franchise: We'll see what happens with the franchise after Lucas. SW goes into public domain 70 years after the Lucas's death.

That all depends on Congress: When Mickey Mouse was due to go into the public domain, Disney called in favors with their Congressional whores and they rushed a bill through that extended it. It'll happen again, and again, and again. IP Law is incredibly lop-sided, because companies can get it changed with a phone call. Striking a fair balance doesn't come into it. You tried calling your congressman lately? The days of public domain are over.

http://en.wikipedia....m_Extension_Act
http://en.wikipedia....wood_accounting

This is a good essay by Orson Scott Card (Enders Game) pointing out who the real criminals are:

http://www.ornery.or...03-09-07-1.html

Ah, the good ol' days, when being a Jedi actually made sense. I just loved how the Jedi order resembled that of monks , living a lonely, somehow separated life. There was so much mystery and appeal to that story.

Very true. GL lost something very important along the way. Even Spielberg has volunteered he couldn't make the sort of movies he used to: Success is a trap that discourages you from taking risks with anything new in the future.

Now the Jedi order has a Jedi Council ,a Jedi Public Library, a Jedi Bar-dash-FastFood, a Jedi Kindergarden and a Jedi Public Transportation System.

Dr. Who copped that sort of criticism when he went back home to Gallifrey (made-up name so it doesn't matter if I spell it wrong) and the divine overlords turned out to be the Harper Valley PTA. As for the Jedi Country Club: Yeah, many a 12 year old could have come up with something better.

This post has been edited by Toru-chan: 24 February 2008 - 02:28 AM