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Experimental technique meet Dawn
#47
Posted 14 May 2006 - 09:34 AM
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... and I had already written the whole text for that picture... WEeee~~~llll, nevermind, I hope Mr. Laughlyn shows up again one of these days, but until then - here's something new for you. After the fan-mail.
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She is athletic, but not that thin. I would have used more lines if I had wanted to draw her ribs and not just her ribcage... ... ... eh, no, forget about that. I wouldn't have done that. I would have thrown up right away, because you're actually right. Anyways, have a look at her chest and her thighs, she's not that thin, but it's just natural for those lines to appear in that pose - even if you're not a walking skeleton - and there'd be something missing without them. I decreased their brightness though, 'specially for you. Hope you like this better.
I'm still not so certain about what "drawing from a trace" really is, so I guess I'll just explain what I do. I draw from imagination. I think of a pose and try to draw it as realistically (?) as possible. A lot of it is mere calculation, ie figuring out what happens to muscle A if muscle B is moved etcetera etcetera... Reality provides me with loads of examples and pictures to study, thus allowing me to reassemble the gathered knowledge in the way I want it to.
Gee, I sound like I really should have applied for that position as a god there... hope that helped answering the question.
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Right here.
Let's see... let's see... does it fit the table...? No it doesn't... grr...
My my, just where do I start...? It's a little difficult without the explanations for the picture I originally wanted to post (*shakes fist in Mr. Laughlyn's direction*).
Well, I've successfully proved myself an idiot with Ka'Zees depiction. How? By thinking that I could draw her using less than 500 lines. I don't know why I thought I could do that, it just jumped into my mind after I had done the first lines of her body - and already reached the 200 lines mark. >_< Really, what was I thinking?
I had a wonderful sketch for this picture, which was a bit scary because it actually looked good. Do you remember that sketch I made for At the Edge of Time? Never saw a bigger contrast before...
So, even with this wonderful sketch and all the cute little accessoires in mind, I still thought that I could do it with less than 500 lines.
I'll go on with this after I bashed my head against a wall for about the same number of times.
RriIighTyY... wheeerEe was I?
The thing was, that the picture which you didn't see yet consisted of about 1200 lines. 1200. That was one hell of a lot for me at that time, considering that Ophelia didn't need more than 270 lines...
... well...
Ka'Zees hair alone consists of over 1000 lines. >_< All in all, she features 2251 lines. Ouch. I think I know why it took me so long to finish this now...
I can't really say much about Ka'Zees character, which is funny, because I thought about her for ages... well, I hope that you can see what she's like anyway, even without me rambling on about her.
Gee, there's really not much left to say, so... let's just all hope that Mr. Laughlyn will return to the Blue Nowhere pretty soon.
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Posted 14 May 2006 - 05:24 PM
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#52
Posted 15 May 2006 - 01:07 AM
And I screwed up, by the way. Uploaded an obsolete version.
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The signature was missing, the eyes still had a weird touch of green and... holy shit, is the mouth alright like that? I could have sworn that I had already fixed that...
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Die Freude ist ganz auf meiner Seite, Miss Abbey.
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#53
Posted 15 May 2006 - 05:45 AM
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JM's official press secretary, scientific advisor, diplomat and apparent antagonist?
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Posted 15 May 2006 - 06:54 AM
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*shivers with inappropriate delight*
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Posted 10 June 2006 - 08:03 AM
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I mean, I'm not religious, I despise or simply ignore the majority of christian art and I had loads of very unpleasant experiences in such buildings. Okay, I admit that the architecture is nice, especially since there are a lot of churches and cathedrals around here and many of them are five times as old as the United States, so they can be pretty interesting, but then again... architecture ain't really my thing.
Then it suddenly striked me that there was one thing that I had always loved about them: The windows. Well, not really that one thing. It was more the combination of stained glass and light that created such a wonderful contrast to the giant, harsh, cold and grey cathedral around it. It's this contrast that I'm trying to recreate.
The picture I used for the texture depicted a cathedral, too, by the way. Not a christian cathedral but rather a giant underground-cavern, which was filled with light that shone through an opening in the rock above. Very beautiful, I must say.
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Alrighty, I'm currently working on another picture, but I guess that it's gonna take a long long time until I figure out what I really want to draw there.
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Especially the facial expression, the eyes and the lips need a little bit more work, in my opinion. I suddenly felt like drawing some stuff yesterday, and this is what came out of it:
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Still based on the same old lines and shapes but with more details and effects. I used emeralds for the iris and made the surrounding black circle a little bit thicker than usual to stress the contrast. I like this version, although I'm unsure how to include it into a whole picture yet. Maybe I'll have to start using some bigger textures to fill the void between the lines.
This has been fun, so I guess I might as well draw the other eye and maybe a face around it for practice. See you around.
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#59
Posted 11 June 2006 - 09:31 AM
whoa. looking through this thread, I see how well your skills and technique have evolved. really amazing work, I hope to see more of it!
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Remember Emu's face, people; one day it's going to be on the news alongside a headline about blowing some landmark to smithereens, and then we can all sigh and say, "She was such a normal person".....
....We'd be lying though.
-Laughlyn
If my doctor tells me to exercise, I am going to force him to do my homework.
-Mirithorn
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#60
Posted 12 June 2006 - 07:33 AM
So I guess I should keep you posted on my progress while I'm still experimenting, so that you don't have to wait for months again. So here's the other eye, I'll think about her complete facial expression next.
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There's still some balancing left to do, but for now I'm just happy that I didn't get too caught up in the dimensions. It actually happens quite often that I start drawing something at the one end only to discover that the part at the other end is much smaller or larger in regards to the dimensions. But that's were this technique's real strong point is: Every line and every shape consists of points and vectors, so there's no loss in quality when I up- or downscale them in order to fit the whole picture. Pretty convenient, eh?
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