[Private Zod]

You ever think these 2 were just 2 big pussies for hiding out over 20 years while teh galaxy went into shit?

[Mike Mac from NYU]

You ever think these 2 were just 2 big pussies for hiding out over 20 years while teh galaxy went into shit?

No, because they had to survive long enough for Luke skywalker to be of age and for them to teach him how to become a Jedi.

Plus, if the emperor found either of them, he might be able to discover the identities and whereabouts of Luke and Leia.

Third, by hiding out they ensured that the emperor would no and think they and all the Jedi were dead.

Fourthly, how do you know they stayed on their respective planets all the time? Maybe they did try and do some actions against the empire.? Maybe that is a story for another time.


You were kidding in your post right!!!

[barend]

ALL TOLD IN IN EP3.2 TO EP3.5

[Supes]

No, because they had to survive long enough for Luke skywalker to be of age and for them to teach him how to become a Jedi.

This one doesn't gel. Yoda was happy not to train Luke because he was too old. If they wanted him to be ready they should have started his training as early as they did for the rest of the mini-Jedi we see Yoda training.

Counterpoint that would have been better is that Vader and the Emperor may have sensed such training and thus hunted them down. By laying low for a while Vader and the Emperor start focusing on different things and are not so on the lookout for force training. Bit od a stretch I'll admit, but given they don't really show the boundaries of force sense in any of the films it's possible.

[civilian_number_two]

Silly. Yoda is a little reptile guy who alsways lived on Dagobah. He does not wield a lightsaber, but is strng in knowledge and use of the Force. Obi-Wan learned many things from him in his day. Yoda never ever ever lived in a city, and there was never anything so stupid as a "Jedi council" or a midichlorian count.

Ben hid, yes, but Yoda was always there. He was not hiding, however. The Emperor could have used his death Star to destroy Yoda, but feared making him a spirit-being, for all the more powerful he would have been.

Ben hid because it was over, dude. He felt responsible for looking out for Luke, as best as he could. He had no intention of being drawn back into the galactc struggle, until Leia's message came along and pulled him in.


All that said, I like this idea about Sidious being able to bend space and dump Yoda on a distant planet. I like it because there is absolutely no precedent for it anywhere else in the series. For the sake of continuity alone, then, it MUST happen!!!

[Mike Mac from NYU]

All that said, I like this idea about Sidious being able to bend space and dump Yoda on a distant planet. I like it because there is absolutely no precedent for it anywhere else in the series. For the sake of continuity alone, then, it MUST happen!!!

Y'now civilian that would explain the reason behind the "Magic tree" on Dagobah
(hey i am agreeing with you and I didn't need my Civilian three persona, by the way he is dead, since I could not find the civilian three avatar or a jpeg file of it}


Yoda's hiding out on Dagobah IMO was purely for the purpose of evading the Jedi purge that the Emperor initiated. Also, i think there is a hint that Dagobah is the place that Yoda trains his Jedi. Remember Obi-Wan knew where Dagobah was.

Obi-Wan, Ben hides out in the desert primarily to reach to Luke when he comes of age and to potentially watch over him. It is hinted that Obi-Wan may have saved Luke's life on several occasions prior to episode IV. Plus Obi-Wan is also evading the the jedi purge.

That's the story answer

Now the filmmaking answer

Yoda and Obi-Wan are hiding out in their respective planets because it help the plot move along. Someones needed to get Luke of Tatooine and start him in his Jedi discovery so hence Obi-Wan appears Obi-Wan dies in episode IV so another person is required to teach Luke. it makes it far more better for Luke to find him on this planet, plus for him to get away from the rest of the cast, so Han and leia can begin their romance. That's it. Star Wars nuts can then rationalize the meanings till Kingdom come.

[Chefelf]

Dagobah is the perfect Jedi planet. The Jedi council should NOT be on Corscant. The Jedi Council should be on a planet (like Dagobah or Dantooine) that is teeming with life (remember that thing called "the Force"? life creates it, makes it grow) not on a planet entirely made of metal.

[Jordan]

The Jedi Council should have lived in ruined temples, dug into the sides of cliff faces. It should have been on Dagobah, or some remote shit hole.

Placing them in trump towers was a poor move. It made them out to look like politicians. They even sat and had council with them....wait...they were their COUNCIL!

They were some sort of Gestapo, or speical police, FBI, CIA, JSIS, MI5, or whatever name you wanna associate them with.

Prior to episode 1, I was under the impression that they were 'noble' rogues. Men (and women) of high regard, qaulity of charcher, pure, true-hearted, wise, simple, etc..

Instead

We get assholes who site in a 900 thousand foot tower (Best View in the solar system) sitting in nice comfy chairs.

[Supes]

Obi-Wan, Ben hides out in the desert primarily to reach to Luke when he comes of age and to potentially watch over him. It is hinted that Obi-Wan may have saved Luke's life on several occasions prior to episode IV. Plus Obi-Wan is also evading the the jedi purge.

I still maintain that the coming of age thing has been completely screwed by the PT. I mean they basically take kids away from their parent when they are toddlers. Luke is way past age and thus has to "unlearn what you have learned." What a waste of time when you think about it.

Kingdom come

Now that was a great story! Alex Ross and MArk Waid - living legends!!!

Dagobah is the perfect Jedi planet. The Jedi council should NOT be on Corscant.

I've always been partial to Yavin 4. It has all the elements required and is somewhere different so we don't have to keep revisiting the same places.

[Supes]

Prior to episode 1, I was under the impression that they were 'noble' rogues. Men (and women) of high regard, qaulity of charcher, pure, true-hearted, wise, simple, etc..

Instead

We get assholes who site in a 900 thousand foot tower (Best View in the solar system) sitting in nice comfy chairs.

Maybe it's a good thing that they all get purged. That's my theory on the whole bringing balance to the force. The Jedi had become such putzes that they needed to be destroyed. Vader was born to kill them all - with the exception of Yoda and Obi-Wan who held to the older tenants of the Jedi and were cool. And then Luke was born to killthe bad (Vader) and learn from the Jedi that were in the groove and restart the order on Yavin where they would not be corrupted by the system.

[SithAvenger]

The Jedi should have their base hidden so that a Sith Lord will not wipe them out... all of them, even the kids.

[Veer]

No, because they had to survive long enough for Luke skywalker to be of age and for them to teach him how to become a Jedi.

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Sort of begs the question why though - Luke was not powerful enough to destroy the emperor - we know that. Yoda OTOH did a far better job confronting the emperor than Luke did. Obi-wan almost destoryed Vader. Now when Luke comes of age they are both dodering, so they can't beat the mepror let alone Vader, but 20 years ago Yoda and Obi-wan have a fair chance against the emperor, especially since Anakin is broken, burned and limbless.

[Patrick Bateman]

Personally I think all the Star Wars 'wars' have been a gigantic subtefuge to hide the relationship between Obiwan and Yoda. If you freeze frame ROTJ final 'ghost' scene they glance at each other with an intamicy that defy's friendship and can only be explained through the narrative of sensuality.
I think Yoda and Obi were hot for each other and set the intergalactic civil
war up as a litlle distraction so they could pop out the back for some rumpty pumtpty.