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It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a... shoe? ESB Has anyone ever actually seen the shoe?

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Posted 09 December 2004 - 11:15 AM

Legend has it that one of the asteroids in the asteroid field of "The Empire Strikes Back" is actually a shoe, thrown in by one of the FX members in brave, valiant defiance of Darth George Lucas, who allegedly ordered countless retakes of the scene.

The question is: has anyone ever actually seen the shoe? I know I've seen a potato in the asteroid field, but I don't think I've ever actually seen the alleged shoe in there. alien.gif
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Posted 09 December 2004 - 11:33 AM

Ah, the shoe. I can help on this one too.

It's not an asteroid. It's one of the rebel cruisers in Return of the Jedi. Which one exactly, I have no idea. I've watched all the original movies over a thousand times and I never knew which ship was the shoe. But I'm guessing it's probably the largest Mon Calamari star cruiser as it's the closest in shape.

By a shoe, you have to realise that it wasn't just a shoe per se. It started as a shoe and people painted it and put things on it.

The reason why it's brought up so often is to highlight the fact that really convincing effects can be made via very simple means.

Millions of people know about the shoe but nobody can spot it. I couldn't say the same for the CGI ships, people, aliens and settings in the prequels.
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Posted 09 December 2004 - 11:50 AM

I was starting to think the shoe was actually one of the spinning asteroid rocks in ESB, but what do I know?
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Posted 09 December 2004 - 06:13 PM

An old sneaker, lovingly painted and added to with a few cheep effects, blends in better than a million dollars worth of the work of enslaved cgi laborers. That's rather sad.

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Posted 09 December 2004 - 08:28 PM

and what i've been saying all along...


although my words were more like:" a sockpuppet would convince me better than one of lucases unholy CGI digital diaper fillers!"

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Posted 09 December 2004 - 09:55 PM

I don't know about the shoe, but here's an interesting tidbit. Put jedi into your VCR or DVD player and fast forward to the scene where they are assualting the Death Star II. Right after they destroy the super star destroyer they cut to a scene with Admiral Ackbar and a bunch of his ilk celebrating. If you listen very closely you can hear someone distinctly shouting "DIE DICKHEADS!" I am not making this up.
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Posted 10 December 2004 - 02:30 AM

I must check this out oneday.
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Posted 10 December 2004 - 09:37 AM

Race you home.
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Posted 10 December 2004 - 10:51 AM

QUOTE (Just your average movie goer @ Dec 9 2004, 11:33 AM)
The reason why it's brought up so often is to highlight the fact that really convincing effects can be made via very simple means.


Funny how philosophies change, innit? rolleyes.gif
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Posted 10 December 2004 - 11:01 AM

It certainly makes you wonder.


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I don't know about the shoe, but here's an interesting tidbit. Put jedi into your VCR or DVD player and fast forward to the scene where they are assualting the Death Star II. Right after they destroy the super star destroyer they cut to a scene with Admiral Ackbar and a bunch of his ilk celebrating. If you listen very closely you can hear someone distinctly shouting "DIE DICKHEADS!" I am not making this up.


laugh.gif IT'S TRUE!!!

I just verified it on the copy I kept on my computer.... oh, brilliant... I am still grinning from ear to ear as I write this. Funny, funny stuff.

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Posted 10 December 2004 - 11:58 AM

It makes me wonder what happened to the George Lucas who once said in an earlier making of Star Wars documentary "A special effect is a tool, a means of telling a story. A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." What happened to that little bit of film-making wisdom?
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Posted 10 December 2004 - 02:06 PM

"That wisdom no longer has any meaning to me."

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Ok, not much of a race on my end, Movie-goer. But I heard it too. smile.gif
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Posted 10 December 2004 - 10:20 PM

You're welcome JYAMG! smile.gif I'm glad that my useless knowledge was able to bring a smile to someone's face!
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Posted 11 December 2004 - 09:17 AM

Useless? Hardly. You found something to enjoy in Return of the Jedi, which is no mean feat. wink.gif
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Posted 12 December 2004 - 08:44 PM

and is it just me... or does one of the ewoks say "that guy's wise" when C3P0 first talks to them...?
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