Pro-life or Pro-choice what is your stand?
#2
Posted 17 August 2006 - 05:13 AM
This is not going to turn out well.
I've no opinion on the matter (well, no opinion concrete enough to state with pride) because I don't have the fiddly bits that make up the majority of baby-making, nor am I persueing a career in medicine. So none of my business la la la I can't hear you.
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#3
Posted 17 August 2006 - 05:30 AM
I'd like to think that abortion is meant to prevent children from being born into a fucked up life filled with misery and to prevent parents from wrecking their lives likewise.
And now I'll shut up, for I'm afraid that I'm still a little bit too tired to adequately participate in such debates. Maybe tonight again.
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#4
Posted 17 August 2006 - 11:20 AM
All that being said, I'm going to do my best not to participate in debate and just moderate this topic, as it's probably going to get messy, fast. People, no foaming at the mouth, personal insults, etc. You know the drill.
#5
Posted 17 August 2006 - 12:33 PM
HOWEVER... Whilst you could say I'm pro-life, ethically; politically, I don't know if I'd put myself there. The problem is, if you make abortion illegal, it would create problems like back during Prohibition, except with human lives instead of alcohol. Instead of going to sterile clinics with doctors who know what they're doing and counselors that can help the women through the emotional distress that usually occurs, you'll have women going to dark, dirty alleys to meet some dark, dirty guy to do the deed; or reverting to old practices like coathanger abortions. It will not only be nearly as many abortions as when it's legal (because if a woman is determined to abort the baby, she will find a way whether it's legal or not) but also it will be an extreme danger to the women, both physically and emotionally. Botched abortions will result in severely deformed, unhealthy babies. A sort of black market will open up for abortions.
So, while I am completely against abortion, I don't see making it illegal as a viable option. Yes, my views are complicated.
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#6
Posted 17 August 2006 - 12:53 PM
On an unrelated note and tangent that I will correct if it gets taken too far, where are the "dark, dirty" women? Are they just all prostitutes or something? And if so, shouldn't they be clean to attract a better clientele?
#7
Posted 17 August 2006 - 01:04 PM
And what do I mean by crude and violent? Have you ever looked into how an abortion is done? *shudder* I really hope the fetus can't feel pain at these points, but we don't even know that much. We know when the pain receptors begin to appear, but there is a possibility that the fetus can feel pain some time before we can see that they definitely can.
#9
Posted 17 August 2006 - 01:25 PM
Of course, in long-term relationships with planned or mutually accepted pregnancies, men cannot walk away at any time. I am not advocating that we drop child support altogether. I am advocating that we drop it in the case of one-night-stands or non-serious relationships.
#10
Posted 17 August 2006 - 01:44 PM
Spoon: I wasn't trying to make a point. I was legitimately wondering where the shady women are. In answer to your questions, yes, and I'm unsure as to what techniques you're discussing, and how they're crude and violent.
#11
Posted 17 August 2006 - 02:27 PM
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#13
Posted 17 August 2006 - 06:31 PM
I stand for pro-life. I'm very much open-minded with the issues tackled in our society and the advantages and disadvantages of it but just think about it, the baby has the right to live isn't that enough reason?
My views are simple... No abortion unless rape or incest.
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#14
Posted 17 August 2006 - 10:40 PM
I agree with you. Making it legal will only make the situation worst. Religion, political agenda and others will be brought out.
Like others I am pro-life I'm sure 30 days will have a great debate about it on their episode about abortion http://www.fxnetworks.com/30days
#15
Posted 17 August 2006 - 11:13 PM
Well but rape and incest are two different things:
Rape: You don't want it.
Incest: You're an idiot that have sex with maybe your idiot sister or brother.