Chefelf.com Night Life: Experiments - Chefelf.com Night Life

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1

Experiments

#1 User is offline   Deepsycher Icon

  • Giantness of Heart
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Former Members
  • Posts: 6,220
  • Joined: 22-December 05
  • Country:Nothing Selected

Posted 10 November 2006 - 03:52 PM

Here is what I wanted to ask for a long time. Why does salt in water conduct electricity for a certain amount of time? An experiment I tried ten years ago with a 12 volt battery, light and glass of water with salt. The answer I found is that chlorine and sodium in water has negative and positive charges for conduction. Correct me if I am wrong here about the charges.

I was told that the sodium would run low and the chlorine would turn into gas. Earlier I tried bleach and it worked.

So here is what I want to do:

Buy some balloons.
Fill a flat base round glass tube with bleach small enough to fit a balloon ontop.
Connect each end of one wire between the light and battery into the bleach.
Fit and restrain the balloon ontop to collect the gas.

If this works next thing I am going to have to do is to see what happens with hydrochloric acid. I know it is dangerous but I don't know how dangerous.


Any thoughts?
0

#2 User is offline   SimeSublime Icon

  • Monkey Proof
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Moderators
  • Posts: 6,619
  • Joined: 06-May 04
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Perth, Western Australia
  • Country:Australia

Posted 11 November 2006 - 09:05 AM

The HCl will dissolve your wires and you'd end up with hydrogen gas.
The Green Knight, SimeSublime the Puffinesque, liker of chips and hunter of gnomes.
JM's official press secretary, scientific advisor, diplomat and apparent antagonist?
0

#3 User is offline   Deepsycher Icon

  • Giantness of Heart
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Former Members
  • Posts: 6,220
  • Joined: 22-December 05
  • Country:Nothing Selected

Posted 11 November 2006 - 09:29 AM

I know it is corrosive so I was going to cut the sleeve of the wires as it goes into the glass tube anyway but now I wonder if the gas will melt the balloon too? If that is correct then I'll have to think of another way to capture the gas.
0

#4 User is offline   SimeSublime Icon

  • Monkey Proof
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Moderators
  • Posts: 6,619
  • Joined: 06-May 04
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Perth, Western Australia
  • Country:Australia

Posted 12 November 2006 - 04:37 AM

I don't think it would melt the balloon. I just don't know how you plan to conduct through acid. Acids react with metals.
The Green Knight, SimeSublime the Puffinesque, liker of chips and hunter of gnomes.
JM's official press secretary, scientific advisor, diplomat and apparent antagonist?
0

#5 User is offline   Deepsycher Icon

  • Giantness of Heart
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Former Members
  • Posts: 6,220
  • Joined: 22-December 05
  • Country:Nothing Selected

Posted 12 November 2006 - 04:15 PM

I need looking for something that conducts eletricity through HCL but doesn't corrode in the process.

Just thought of the terminals of a car battery. How about stainless steel will that corrode in acid?


For the bleach experiment:

I put thick bleach in a small wine bottle with two mains copper or copper coloured wires, one bottom, one on the top, taped on the outside with a balloon ontop. I saw a streak of bubbles reaching for the other wire on the top when I connected to the 12 volt battery and led for some minutes.

I am going to try this in the garden tomorrow with something that takes up more energy than the led, paranoid that it might explode.


This post has been edited by Deepsycher: 12 November 2006 - 04:22 PM

0

#6 User is offline   Slade Icon

  • Full of Bombs and/or Keys
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Head Moderator
  • Posts: 8,626
  • Joined: 30-November 03
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Columbia, SC
  • Interests:I like stuff.
  • Country:United States

Posted 12 November 2006 - 11:55 PM

Please don't blow yourself up... Be careful, DS.
This space for rent. Inquire within.
0

Page 1 of 1


Fast Reply

  • Decrease editor size
  • Increase editor size