Star Trek new movie; Kirk and crew's beginning
#16
Posted 20 November 2008 - 10:49 AM
Well, they're not like, great literary works, but in an if-you-like-Star-Trek kind of way... They are enjoyable, anyway.
#17
Posted 20 November 2008 - 07:37 PM
Ultimately the only TNG movie that has any bits in it that I like. And it is cynical writing at its best, except for that Alfre Woodard character.
Of the TOS movies, only WRATH OF KHAN (IMO) was any good. The first movie was too slow, wasting long shots on loving closeups up the Enterprise hull, and ultimely killing a lot of time of new characters that it only intended to kill off. The films that followed were more streamlined.
SEARCH FOR SPOCK was terrible because it undermined the great dramatic ending of KHAN. Don't make a big deal about killing off an important character if you can just bring him back later.
The one with the whales was ok in that comedy episode way, I suppose. I can't agree with the majority of TREK semi-fans that it was the bestof them. However I will say that whenever talking with a serious TREK fan, because it makes them nuts.
The fifth one was horrible. They search for God? Spock has a brother and his excuse for not telling anyone about it is the same as Stan Laurel's for not telling Ollie that there was a piano hanging over his head: "You never asked me." And the punchline of the movie is a close reading of the lyrics to "row row row your boat." Yikes.
UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY I liked ok, except they pussied out again by writing a new character to commit the crime they'd planned for Saavik. The teary resolution where Spock has to turn his back on a beloved student is missing any history (remember he'd had sex with Saavik, and likely had SOME feelings for her; this Kim Catrall character was written in just for that show).
So ... in the end, the only one I really liked was KHAN.
#18
Posted 20 November 2008 - 09:41 PM
And all the other movies, aside from First Contact, aren't even enjoyable. Well, Generations is okay, some parts of it, I guess. There were some themes in it that were pretty good, just underdeveloped. But yeah.
I'm hoping this movie is at least better than the Enterprise series. Ugh. NO one can convince me that THAT load of crap was good.
#19
Posted 21 November 2008 - 01:04 AM
#20
Posted 23 November 2008 - 04:57 AM
I might be jumping the gun, but I really feel I've seen the entire film from the 45 second trailer.
#21
Posted 14 June 2009 - 09:56 PM
What a load of dog shit.
Lots of big action scenes that failed to distract me from its terrible terrible premise of bad guy wants to destroy universe with giant boomstick from the future. It even has a disclaimer IN STORY that "allowed" it to digress from Star Trek canon, as though its writers weren't confident enough that the'd get it right.
Too many inside jokes, sight gags, and celebrity impersonations mired down and made embarrassing what should have been an easy gig. In the end it felt to me like a big-budget fan film.
This post has been edited by civilian_number_two: 14 June 2009 - 10:01 PM
#22
Posted 28 June 2009 - 02:51 PM
That more or less sums up my thoughts on viewing this movie. But then IMO nothing Star Trek has been worth looking at since Voyager came to an end.
The editing room has a fairly decent spoof of this movie.
http://www.the-editi...k.html#more-966
So wait, why does red matter destroy planets but send ships back in time?
This post has been edited by Mr Pye: 28 June 2009 - 02:54 PM
#23
Posted 05 July 2009 - 10:01 PM
I imediatley decided afterwards that it was time to by the OS on DVD but the ones that had been trying to tempt me with their interestingly packed overpricedness for so many months... only to find they've all been re-released as George Lucasesque spiffy rape your childhood with a ten pound black ribbed dildo updated CGI godawfulness.
You did not just refer to Barkley as a character that everyone hates.
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#24
Posted 06 July 2009 - 11:05 PM
God, what a load of dog shit.
And whatever, you can have your Barclay, but remember he was on the away team with Riker and Troi.
#25
Posted 07 July 2009 - 12:08 AM
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#26
Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:45 PM
God, what a load of dog shit.
And whatever, you can have your Barclay, but remember he was on the away team with Riker and Troi.
IT was the little things. Maybe it was me walking in with low expectations, but I found it harmless fun. I loved that Kirk was fucking a green chick, I loved the quickly getting to know the red suit before a dangerous mission in which he got killed, but most importantly (and hypocritically vindicating I think you'll find) was the bit where it was all BOOOOOM KRSHSHSHH pew pew pew pweong, BAKCHCHCHCHC, kekekekekek, BANG BOOM VWOOOOOOOOMSH, chugu KAPLOW!!!!
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#27
Posted 09 July 2009 - 01:16 AM
STAR TREK was not a movie; it was a delivery system for tits and explosions. It had no story, only plot elements and jokes. It had no characters. It was not Star Trek.
#29
Posted 19 July 2009 - 10:50 PM
I don't agree that this one ran on all cylinders. I didn't find the characters compelling, the plot elements were held together by necessity rather than credibility, and the action was ultimately uninteresting (villain is indestructible until the narrative require that he not be, which is basically the most formulaic action plot ever). I was bored most of the time, and I really wanted to like it. I didn't like the time travel/parallel universe storyline, but that alone wasn't a dealbreaker. It was that the time travel/parallel universe storyline wasn't a storyline on its own, but rather a "clever" fix to issues of continuity. And it was used so poorly! One spaceship was blown up twenty-five years ago, with little loss of life, so now the federation communicators look different! And now Scotty is assigned to an ice planet orbiting Vulcan, never to be noticed by the Federation unless Kirk shows up! Now Starfleet promotes Ensigns to Captain in one week! NOw Uhura and Spock are dating! It was BUTTERFLY EFFECT meets SLIDERS, the notion that one little change will affect everyone dramatically, except they'll all still end up meeting one another and working/living together, only in different ways.
It was a weird, bad movie.
This post has been edited by civilian_number_two: 20 July 2009 - 11:45 PM
#30
Posted 20 July 2009 - 01:17 AM
civilian_number_two, on 20 July 2009 - 05:50 AM, said:
That sounds like the ultimate movie.
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