Actually, I'm not just using Wal-Mart as an example. I don't know about the rest of the country, but in Florida they do this all the time. Mostly to poorer people. They are generating jobs and whatnot, but they're kicking out tons of people to do it.
Proof the USA is going to hell.
#31
Posted 30 June 2005 - 11:51 AM
Actually, I'm not just using Wal-Mart as an example. I don't know about the rest of the country, but in Florida they do this all the time. Mostly to poorer people. They are generating jobs and whatnot, but they're kicking out tons of people to do it.
#32
Posted 30 June 2005 - 12:08 PM
Agreed. It's basically the haves wanting what little the have nots have. The jobs they generate are low wage and low skill. Property rights used to be the hallmark of American liberty, now it's all about capital liberty and economic rights.
#33
Posted 30 June 2005 - 12:25 PM
I always got the impression that the term liberal was kind of wishy washy, with no rigid definition, politcally. Now days, conservatives use it more or less as an insult, right? All sorts of people are called liberals, I think, but I always got the impression it had something to do with someone's belief in protecting the obligations society had for individuals, like say the obligation society has not to control another persons reproductive choices. Sounds pretty good to me!
And lefty, well isn't that just a term used to describe a certain swing, politically? Like opposite to righty's, or those in the right wing politically. And aren't Those people like republicans and conservatives and shit? And so wouldn't it follow that the left wingers would be the other people, namely the people who sit on the other side of the proverbial fence. And aren't at least one subset of those people democrats? I mean, they certainly aren't 'rightys'. Maybe some of them would be better termed as moderates, but even those, I bet, are only called that because they are so close to the middle, but no doubt still more or less on the "other" (left) side.
#34
Posted 30 June 2005 - 05:17 PM
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#36
Posted 01 July 2005 - 12:37 PM
In all seriousness, CLASS STRUGGLE! YARRR!
Ok, let me try again. Renegade, stop arguing semantics. It's just plain silly and detracting from legitimate debate/bitching.
Well to be fair, you should say Renegade, Rory, and Rhubarb (Hey three R's!), stop arguing semantics. And I think Renegade's point isn't that silly. A lot of people seem to think being a liberal is a horrible thing, but that really seems to be from all the bad press the word gets from people who claim liberals are wishy washy pansies. And THAT's just silly! Well some liberals are pansies I guess, but still!
#37
Posted 01 July 2005 - 11:08 PM
Liberals get a bad wrap because they are the enemies of the conservatives, and they have no qualms against fighting as dirty as possible. I think the liberals need to wake up and fight fire with fire before the US becomes irreversibly reactionary.
#38
Posted 02 July 2005 - 03:33 AM
It said OR didn't it? Not and.
Reading comprehension > you
#39
Posted 02 July 2005 - 03:36 AM
It's not really a argument its just common sense. The left of the spectrum (lefty) is considered liberal as opposed to the right side of the spectrum which is considered conservative. I don't see the trouble in this understanding. Whether you think Democrats are LIBERAL nuff is irrelevent to the point of lefty = liberal.
#42
Posted 02 July 2005 - 04:28 AM
I guess some people are pansies.
Then some are liberals.
And some are not.
I like the expression "wishy washy", though.
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#43
Posted 02 July 2005 - 04:33 AM
Do you not read?
LIBERAL OR RADICAL. Not AND.
The left side is considered liberal / radical (when extreme) and right side is considered conservative / reactionary (when extreme). It's really not difficult to comprehend.
This post has been edited by Renegade: 02 July 2005 - 04:40 AM
#44
Posted 02 July 2005 - 04:41 AM
LIBERAL OR RADICAL. Not AND.
The left side is considered liberal / radical (when extreme) and right side is considered conservative / reactionary. It's really not difficult to comprehend.
Maybe we could invent some new political jargon.
One could have libedicals and conservionarys, for starters.
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