QUOTE (barend @ Aug 10 2005, 06:29 PM)
i think your all out of your depth here
let's meet up and see if you can kill me with an axe...
i'll be unarmed.
i'll win...
if twenty guys with broken bottles coudn't kill me...
if a guy with a knife couldn't kill me...
and two massive football playing looking mutherfuckers couldn't take me...
then i'm pretty sure that 95% of civillians without fire arms are no threat to me...
civ#2 is spot on...
send a bunch of people against me with most non-projectile weaponry and i'll tie them into a u human pretzel...
give a 7 year old a small revolver and suddenly i've got no chance...
(unless you factor in that most kids seem to like me and that i'm a charasmatic speaker) - but my point still stands strong.
pepper spray will take care of that mugger... i've seen footage of the biggest guys brought down by that shit, reduced to tears...
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despite the claim of statiscal proof of which, in all honesty, niether of us have provided... taking guns out of the home will still cut down substantially on gun related deaths!!!
-Barend
So where is your proof?
-James12345
PROOF?
common sense requires no proof!!!
lets use the same premise but with different parameters and change the key words:
taking
broken glass out of the home will still cut down substantially on
foot related
cuts!!!
does THAT require proof?
if one person a year (and we all know it's more) by a gun stored in their own house, that number will stop drop if no one stores guns in their house...
why is such a simple premise so difficult for everyone to understand....
Ok chill out tuff guy, your not the toughest man on earth and SOMEBODY can beat you fist to fist, or any other way you like to fight. You know this.
And if they preyed upon your weakness that would be cowardly.
Now, If you could rip me apart in a street fight then shooting you dead in my defense would not be cowardly (unless I raped your sister or did something equally as bad. And given that you were going to kill me, whatever the means it's just as bad, well... in a way, I'd rather be shot then beaten to death).
What I am saying Barend is that projectile weapons are not cowardly just because your sphere of influence is expanded...
Why is a katana not just as cowardly against an unarmed person as a gun, it is.
If your so afraid of guns why don't you get one? And learn how to use it. I'd figure that you'd rather burn somebody then die. Would you feel like a coward?
It's like saying that motor vehicles are cowardly because your horse can't compete fairly. (That is good comparison because hand to hand and sword to sword fighting is obsolete against a gun).
And to your last point...
Then why not make glass illegal? Or anything else that kills people, I bet you can name alot...
If someone else has a gun and can kill me with it, I want one too dammit!