[Primetime]

This is easy; two things:

1.) Product tie-ins/franchising

2.) The summer blockbuster



It's all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[azryan]

Despondent wrote -

"-There were a lot of improvements between Jedi and the JP dinosaurs.-"
Very true. You might be trying to counter my last remarks though?

To be clear I was really talking about the dorky CGI muppet looking characters that did not look realistic vs. decade old JP dinos that did. Not all the FX.

TPM had state of the art FX of course (as do they all), but really nothing that hadn't been done before.
Just so much MORE than what had been done already all packed into one film.

For another example WETA's epic battles in the LotR's trilogy, landscapes, Golum, and also the team who did SpiderMan1&2 had stuff more advanced than ILM's work in the first two prequels.

All basically state of the art though but also ILM didn't get any Oscars for their work being beaten by those other studios. Not that the Oscars mean anything to me.

"-But sound. You can't overlook LFL's contributions there. '77 SW was one of the first films screened in doubly, btw.-"


What's doubly? heh

Dobly Labs was not george lucas. That evolution in sound was going to happen with or without lucas but he did happen to be making the original SW films when that stuff was coming out.

Lucky timing just like the level of FX when he began the films in the mid 70's.

He had a role in the THX standards but THX is really just marketing crap. It's not a technology it's a standard or rules which Dolby Labs and DTS already had.

starwarsisus asked -"Was the speederbike chase even Lucas' idea to begin with?-"

If you mean was he the one to write it into the script -I dunno? Does anyone here?

It's not like he invented a cowboy chage and that's all it is though -plus current stop motion, model work, blue screen and playing with the film speed.

It sure wasn't lucas who figured out HOW to make that chase even if lucas said -"ok... they hop on flying motorcycles and race really fast through the trees."

ILM makes his little whims the amazing effects that they end up as.

This post has been edited by azryan: 18 May 2005 - 01:55 PM

[azryan]

Oh... and SW didn't invent the summer blockbuster.

I think you'd have to give Spielburg the credit for that though SW right after did solidify that as H'Wood's goal.

I believe Jaws and Close Encounters came out before Star Wars and then Spielburg continued with E.T. and the Indy films. He's Mr. Summer Blockbuster.

[Despondent]

CE3K wasn't a summer movie. In fact, SW preceded it. But you're right JAWS was the first blockbuster.

Doubly was a Spinal Tap reference. I hope SOMEbody got it.

My point was, the FX look changed between Jedi and TPM. If Lucas had revisited the model shop and used actual sets (as in Jedi) the look would've been more consistent.

[azryan]

Oops about Close Encounters but at least Jaws was enough to make my point.
Good.

Spinal Tap reference? Sorry. Didn't catch it. I only remember the used to death not funny anymore 'it goes to 11' line and that micro-sized Stonehenge stage prop heh.

So are you saying you don't think modern CG sets can look the exact same as actual stage sets?

If that's what you're saying I disagree. I just think these prequels didn't do what 'could have been done' -making the OT and PT sets/FX look different.

Nothing we shouldn't have expected though after the 'special editions' CG disasters.

Why didn't anyone stop lucas when we had the chance?
Stole his scripts at least, rewritten them, and sent them to a real director to film using lucas's 'fabuloso' stamp to make it look official.

Live and learn. heh

This post has been edited by azryan: 19 May 2005 - 08:58 PM