The various Force powers
#1
Posted 24 May 2005 - 10:08 AM
I think it would be interesting if there was a Jedi who was powerful enough to use these techniques without being overwhelmed and turn 'evil'.
Some might argue that burning people with lightning and choking them to death are not very productive things to do. However, Jedis also cut people to pieces with their light sabres, and remain 'good'. Lightning and choking are just other ways of dealing with evil people right?
What do other people think (apart from that I'm an idiot)
#2
Posted 24 May 2005 - 12:18 PM
This post has been edited by floppydisk: 24 May 2005 - 12:18 PM
#3
Posted 24 May 2005 - 12:28 PM
If someone is attacking me witha lightsabre, I think that choking them, and thus imobilizing them, would be a handy thing to do. It's not really torture in this instance, it's just stopping them attacking. Then you can walk towards them while they are choking and then kill them with lightsabre.
Lightning is just handy for dispatching people. Jedi use the force push to knock over a bunch of robots. Why not lightning their ass?
#4
Posted 24 May 2005 - 12:31 PM
Well, I guess you're right, but the reason that never happened is you don't get to see a cool lightsabre battle.
Lightning to robots? That would take a while to kill them, I think. Did you see how long Luke held out against the lightning? Lightsabres are easier. In fact, I think that lightning may be a torture thing...
And the list of force powers Jedi have should not be contained by what we saw in the movies. I'm sure that by the very nature of the force, there are much more things that Jedi/sith can do.
#5
Posted 24 May 2005 - 12:35 PM
Lightning to robots? That would take a while to kill them, I think. Did you see how long Luke held out against the lightning? Lightsabres are easier. In fact, I think that lightning may be a torture thing...
And the list of force powers Jedi have should not be contained by what we saw in the movies. I'm sure that by the very nature of the force, there are much more things that Jedi/sith can do.
Heh yea. I think that they try to make out that choking people and using lightning is like a dishonorable thing to do. But really, so is using force push in my opinion. Also like you say, they are more torturous and cruel techniques usually. But like I said, it'd be cool if there was a Jedi who used them sparingly in times of desperation but didn't go dark.
#6
Posted 24 May 2005 - 12:37 PM
"I can't win by my values, so I'm gonna use the values of my enemy as an excuse to break my own."
And on the dark jedi thing, wasn't Kyle from Jedi Knight (the game) like that?
#7
Posted 24 May 2005 - 12:40 PM
"I can't win by my values, so I'm gonna use the values of my enemy as an excuse to break my own."
And on the dark jedi thing, wasn't Kyle from Jedi Knight (the game) like that?
Yea that's right. He was a dickhead though in my opinion.
About the values, my point is that their values are pretty messed up. It's okay to kill people, but it's not okay to choke them? That doesn't make much sense to me. Okay, choking people for ages just to hurt them, that seems wrong. But choking them to get them to stop attacking and to imobilize them, that seems fair enough.
#8
Posted 24 May 2005 - 01:11 PM
What fun is a battle without Jedi and sith clashing blades?
#9
Posted 24 May 2005 - 01:21 PM
I guess the Sith don't use their electricity and choking all the time either, and yea it is to get the cool sabre fights. But even so, you don't see a Jedi use choking or electricity on anyone at all. They could use it at some point to deal with an irritating pleb at some point. That way you'd retain all the sabre fights, but also see a Jedi totally degrobulate someone.
#10
Posted 24 May 2005 - 01:27 PM
#11
Posted 24 May 2005 - 01:30 PM
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
#12
Posted 24 May 2005 - 01:33 PM
What Helena said.
I already said why I think some sides favor some powers, instead of certian powers being light and dark themselves. Refer to my counter argument there.
#13
Posted 24 May 2005 - 09:06 PM
Never attack.
So push is simply used to knock a droid over so it can't fight effectively because its on the ground and can't get up - but lightning and choking and hurling big blocks are direct force attacks. Jedi don't do that.
Sith on the other hand have no qualms about blasting foes with lightning because well... that's what sith do.
Its not the powers, its the intent behind them, and a lightning blast is pretty much an attack.
#14
Posted 24 May 2005 - 09:30 PM
Never attack.
So push is simply used to knock a droid over so it can't fight effectively because its on the ground and can't get up - but lightning and choking and hurling big blocks are direct force attacks. Jedi don't do that.
Sith on the other hand have no qualms about blasting foes with lightning because well... that's what sith do.
Its not the powers, its the intent behind them, and a lightning blast is pretty much an attack.
But Jedi are happy to cut people to bits with lightsabres, which is an attack