Too old to train... the learning curve.
#16
Posted 21 December 2005 - 11:52 AM
"And the Evil that was vanquished shall rise anew. Wrapped in the guise of man shall he walk amongst the innocent and Terror shall consume they that dwell upon the Earth. The skies will rain fire. The seas shall become as blood. The righteous shall fall before the wicked! And all creation shall tremble before the burning standards of Hell!" - Mephisto
Kurgan X showed me this web comic done with Legos. It pokes fun at all six Star Wars films and I found it to be extremely entertaining.
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#17
Posted 21 December 2005 - 06:02 PM
which "winners" are you talking about?
they're all dead!
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#19
Posted 10 March 2006 - 06:22 AM
this whole "too old" crap that keeps popping up (as, let's face, a poor excuse for a tie in and defeating attempt at consistency) is by far the most implausible notion.
let's look at the track record...
Luke Skywalker
commenced training: age 21 (aprox)
result: defeated Darth Vader/Anikan
Anikan Skywalker (AKA Darth Vader, Annie)
commenced training: age 11
result: defeated room of younglings
the Younglings
commenced training: age 4
result: wiped out.
well, i think the results speak for themselves there...
So what your saying is that if I start training as a Jedi at the age of 72 instead of 16, Ill become the most powerful entitiy in the galaxy?
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#20
Posted 10 March 2006 - 08:36 AM
Back before I first started to watch the OT religiously (long before the PT came out) I used to think that Luke was some kind of super special human who inherently had some kind of extra affinity to the mystical forces of the universe that other Jedi must not have had, and that was why he was able to get a few weeks of training in and go put a whoopin on the Emperor.
Turns out he’s more like Scooby Do who just happens to be in the right place at the right time. Its kind of a freak accident that he ever gets as far as he does. I mean, his sword skills are shabby at best, he doesn’t know force absorb/reflect like the Jedi from the PT (you would have thought Yoda would have let him in on Palps’ lightening-from-his-fingers thing). He never learns how to do Jedi mind trick… as far as we know.
How is Luke supposed to go on to train the new Jedi in his new JedI Order?
And now that I think of it, I though Luke’s father wanted him to have that blue lightsaber. Isn’t that was crazy old Ben said to him in ANH?
*sigh* Its hopeless.
Incidentally, how many death threats do you think GL gets a day?
#21
Posted 10 March 2006 - 09:56 AM
In ESB, Kenobi basically tells Yoda, "Hey, remember back when you said Anakin was too old? Won't that same kind of arrogance come back to bite us in the ass if we deny our last hope a little Jedi training?" Besides, Yoda told Kenobi he was too old but still trained him anyways.
This is just theory on my part, but what if Luke recieved more Force power after Kenobi and Yoda passed away... sort of like they were both giving him an additional boost. Just a thought.
#22
Posted 10 March 2006 - 10:06 AM
So Yoda was a liar.
#24
Posted 10 March 2006 - 11:12 AM
I'm not saying he was a total liar, but keep this in mind:
Ben Kenobi: Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
I think Yoda really meant Anakin was old enough to understand that it hurts to lose somebody. Maybe given the situation (Anakin being taken from his mother at 9 or 10 years old to train as a Jedi Padawan) Yoda thought it was a bad idea. The Jedi usually trained their own kind from infancy. So, in a way... Anakin was too old. If Yoda had not sensed fear in him, he may have said, "Ok, no problem, Qui-Gon."
#26
Posted 10 March 2006 - 03:09 PM
You got me there.
#28
Posted 11 March 2006 - 02:57 AM
And Jejef, not to be mean or anything, but have you read the first page of this thread?
"And the Evil that was vanquished shall rise anew. Wrapped in the guise of man shall he walk amongst the innocent and Terror shall consume they that dwell upon the Earth. The skies will rain fire. The seas shall become as blood. The righteous shall fall before the wicked! And all creation shall tremble before the burning standards of Hell!" - Mephisto
Kurgan X showed me this web comic done with Legos. It pokes fun at all six Star Wars films and I found it to be extremely entertaining.
<a href="http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html" target="_blank">http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html</a>
#29
Posted 11 March 2006 - 09:47 AM
And Jejef, not to be mean or anything, but have you read the first page of this thread?
Zatoichi I have read the first page of this thread and two posts, in particular, sum it up very nicely. Paladin's and Ucaptious' posts express why Anakin and Luke were 'too old' to begin training.
Somehow Ucaptious' post was overlooked by the... high brow elitists... that claim, "Down with GL, down with the PT! This is our Star Wars, not GL's!" Not sure why... but then again, I'm sure he didn't have a valid point anyways.
#30
Posted 11 March 2006 - 10:58 AM
This post has been edited by Zatoichi: 11 March 2006 - 11:01 AM
"And the Evil that was vanquished shall rise anew. Wrapped in the guise of man shall he walk amongst the innocent and Terror shall consume they that dwell upon the Earth. The skies will rain fire. The seas shall become as blood. The righteous shall fall before the wicked! And all creation shall tremble before the burning standards of Hell!" - Mephisto
Kurgan X showed me this web comic done with Legos. It pokes fun at all six Star Wars films and I found it to be extremely entertaining.
<a href="http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html" target="_blank">http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html</a>