The Dark Side Cave
#1
Posted 13 June 2005 - 02:18 PM
#2
Posted 13 June 2005 - 02:43 PM
The other thing that isn't clear about Luke's training is how long he is on Dagobah for. I'm guessing it is a few weeks/months and all that time the Falcon is limping to Bespin on sublight engines.
This post has been edited by Trigormike: 13 June 2005 - 02:45 PM
#3
Posted 13 June 2005 - 03:29 PM
I've heard a Sith lord died in the cave and his death left an aura of evil in the cave.
#5
Posted 13 June 2005 - 07:36 PM
In my rewrites, long ago (about 500 years), an evil Sith spirit plagued the galaxy, possessing people and using them to scheme against the Jedi and Republic. Well, one hero by the name of Kane Skywalker who and his surviving family forced the Sith spirit into this "cave" (actually, it's a construct if you notice in ESB) and sealed it there. In the next 500 years, all of the anger and hate and pure evil that the creature possessed seeped into the caves, corrupted the animal life around. Palpatine who was an explorer at one point (which was an idea Lucas had) was possessed by the spirit when he discovered Dagobah and the cave. In a moment of poetic "justice" the Spirit dumps Yoda on Dagobah.
This post has been edited by CowboyCurtis: 13 June 2005 - 07:37 PM
Battle for the Galaxy--read the "other Star Wars"
All I know is I haven't seen the real prequels yet.
#6
Posted 13 June 2005 - 11:33 PM
if only they had bothered to put some effort into justifying that one while they had the chance... in ep.3
no... better that we see chewbacca and yoda were friends...
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#7
Posted 14 June 2005 - 04:38 AM
Chewbacca shouldn't have been in the prequels.
If he knows Yoda then he would know about, and believe in the Force, so there's a good chance Han would too.
He must have been too engrossed in his game of holochess, or wondering which of Threepio's arms to pull off first, that he didn't put Han straight when he calls it "A lot of simple tricks and nonsense."
#9
Posted 14 June 2005 - 11:42 AM
no... better that we see chewbacca and yoda were friends...
Everything in the prequels is screwed up.
Chewbacca shouldn't have been in the prequels.
If he knows Yoda then he would know about, and believe in the Force, so there's a good chance Han would too.
He must have been too engrossed in his game of holochess, or wondering which of Threepio's arms to pull off first, that he didn't put Han straight when he calls it "A lot of simple tricks and nonsense."
Chewbacca shouldn't have been in it, and neither should have Boba Fett (or Jango for that matter!) and defiantely not Jar Jar Binks, Yoda, Greedo and several other characters reintroduced to us from the OT.
This should have been a galaxy, not some tiny little town. I would say that meeting up with someone in a galaxy as big as that and finding them again in some random travels would be very, very thin indeed.
#11
Posted 14 June 2005 - 02:06 PM
In my rewrites, long ago (about 500 years), an evil Sith spirit plagued the galaxy, possessing people and using them to scheme against the Jedi and Republic. Well, one hero by the name of Kane Skywalker who and his surviving family forced the Sith spirit into this "cave" (actually, it's a construct if you notice in ESB) and sealed it there. In the next 500 years, all of the anger and hate and pure evil that the creature possessed seeped into the caves, corrupted the animal life around. Palpatine who was an explorer at one point (which was an idea Lucas had) was possessed by the spirit when he discovered Dagobah and the cave. In a moment of poetic "justice" the Spirit dumps Yoda on Dagobah.
I like that idea. Have you posted your rewrites anywhere?
#12
Posted 14 June 2005 - 06:43 PM
NOW that STAR WARS has been hopelessly demystifed with dumb prophecies and midichlorians, I wouldn't be surprised if in fact there were some dumb explanation like the cave being the resting place of a Sith, or an Indian burial ground, or some similarly literal crap.
#13
Posted 15 June 2005 - 01:00 PM
I was under the impression that any one could use the force. If a person wanted to be a Jedi, they would have to start off at a young age and train vigoursly. According to Yoda, the force was in everything, even inanimate rocks. I thought it was just energy, and Jedi could use the energy from surrounding objects.
I never fully understood the force cave, I thought it was something Yoda set up to help train Luke.
I really enjoyed my take on the force.
This post has been edited by Jordan: 15 June 2005 - 01:01 PM
#15
Posted 16 June 2005 - 09:19 AM
I'd always imagined that Dagobah became the way it did as the result of some sort of climactic Force battle between Yoda and a dark Force user (not a Sith lord, as Sith lords shouldn't actually exist outside of Darth Vader). Yoda's own shortcomings as a Jedi master and his darkness helped make Dagobah the way it was in ESB which is why Yoda chose to stay there and meditate on what he'd done.
Of course, that's assuming Yoda and the evil guy were strong enough with the Force that they coudl have such an intense battle... not even physcically touching. As the prequels show us that is not possible, rather they just need to leap and spin around at ridiculous speeds with lightsabers because that's just cooler.
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