I saw AOTC for the first time in ages last night ...and it was better
#17
Posted 17 October 2005 - 08:07 PM
I'm sorry, but if it was much more eloquently done, I would have believed it. I enjoy being able to suspend disbelief and not having to explain away much, if anything at all.
Here is something that no one can deny though, that Christopher Lee's performance was spectaculer. He was served a character done horribly and still managed to shine. If anything great came out of that film it was that.
I did enjoy the later bit of the arena scene, where all of the Jedi pop out of no where. Actually, I would think that that would show that their ability with the Force was not "shrouded by the darkside". Dooku might not have even seen that kind of response coming. What I disliked was that so many of the Jedi fell in battle. I was under the impression that each Jedi Knight was worth an army alone (even Xenduck, a PT lover feels this way). Participating in the battle were also many Jedi Masters. I'm not sure, but I think the entire Jedi Council was present. I also know that some of those present had happened to be Padawans. In my opinion, the Jedi would have whiped out the droids and Geonosians that they faced.
Now that I think about it. If there had been scenes in all three films that had the Jedi gradually getting weaker in their ability to use the Force, and also arguing about why this is occuring, I feel that it would have been acceptable.
"And the Evil that was vanquished shall rise anew. Wrapped in the guise of man shall he walk amongst the innocent and Terror shall consume they that dwell upon the Earth. The skies will rain fire. The seas shall become as blood. The righteous shall fall before the wicked! And all creation shall tremble before the burning standards of Hell!" - Mephisto
Kurgan X showed me this web comic done with Legos. It pokes fun at all six Star Wars films and I found it to be extremely entertaining.
<a href="http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html" target="_blank">http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html</a>
#18
Posted 17 October 2005 - 11:26 PM
One of the things I hated about the Clone Wars cartoon is that it portrayed the Jedi as the invincible warriors they were never meant to be.
“No-one can kill a Jedi!”
“I wish that were so…”
#19
Posted 17 October 2005 - 11:37 PM
"And the Evil that was vanquished shall rise anew. Wrapped in the guise of man shall he walk amongst the innocent and Terror shall consume they that dwell upon the Earth. The skies will rain fire. The seas shall become as blood. The righteous shall fall before the wicked! And all creation shall tremble before the burning standards of Hell!" - Mephisto
Kurgan X showed me this web comic done with Legos. It pokes fun at all six Star Wars films and I found it to be extremely entertaining.
<a href="http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html" target="_blank">http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html</a>
#20
Posted 19 October 2005 - 01:12 AM
Ahahahaha. That image is so hilarious.
Don't the prequels somewhat follow the pattern of showing Jedi decreasing in power? In TPM, Obi-wan and Qui-Gon Jinn come off as fairly strong Jedi Knights who manage to destroy a Sith apprentice. In AOTC, Obi-wan struggles against Jango Fett, and several Jedi fall during a massive battle. In ROTS, even the Jedi Masters fail to sense an attack coming at a crucial moment. It actually seems like the Force abandons them when the attack comes.
This process points to a reduction of light side powers over the twenty some-odd years covered by the PT.
On a somewhat related note, is there any way to find out exactly which Jedi were killed on Geonosis? I'll bet they've all been given elaborate backstories, haha.
#21
Posted 19 October 2005 - 02:08 AM
Personally, I would say the first thing that should come to anyones mind is the music.
The opening music and the beginning of the end credits are awsome.
Duel of the Fates, Battle of the Heroes, Cantina Band, Ben's Death, TIE Fighter Attack, The Asteroid Field, The Forest Battle, Light of the Force, and one other I can't think of (well actually include all of the other songs) are all awsome.
The Imperial March is by far my favorite one.
Forgot a rebuttal: So how did Obi-wan manage to beat Anakin then? According to that theory, Anakin should have flat out whiped the floor with Obi-wan.
This post has been edited by Zatoichi: 19 October 2005 - 02:14 AM
"And the Evil that was vanquished shall rise anew. Wrapped in the guise of man shall he walk amongst the innocent and Terror shall consume they that dwell upon the Earth. The skies will rain fire. The seas shall become as blood. The righteous shall fall before the wicked! And all creation shall tremble before the burning standards of Hell!" - Mephisto
Kurgan X showed me this web comic done with Legos. It pokes fun at all six Star Wars films and I found it to be extremely entertaining.
<a href="http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html" target="_blank">http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html</a>
#22
Posted 19 October 2005 - 09:50 AM
The whole bit about Jedi not being able to love is something I just can't get over. It just gets brought up after 4 previous movies where no indication is given that it's not okay. The idea that the Jedi aren't supposed to love and Anankin's situation is some sort of reason why they shouldn't is preposterous. The Jedi should be able to love and should be competent enough to balance that with their other Jedi duties.
Furthermore, Yoda's insistence that Anakin let Padme pass out of his life without feeling any grief or even missing here goes far beyond the Jedi's cool and calm philosophical nature and crosses right over into insanity. Sure, the Jedi should be smart and controlled enough to not be overcome with grief but not even having a moment of grief or missing someone is beyond that, it's just crazy.
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#23
Posted 19 October 2005 - 07:56 PM
I really liked 'Across the Stars'. When I was playing Star Wars Lego I found myself humming along to the soundtrack. I guess those songs have infiltrated my memory more than I thought.
Well, but look what happened to Anakin when he couldn’t let go of either Shmi, then the greed that led to that made him not want to lose Padme in the same way. I mentioned this a few posts ago, but Yoda’s coldness seems inhuman, but this humanizes Anakins natural reactions all the more. He did what most of us probably would have done. All of his actions- being scared to lose his mother, blaming himself when he did, wanting revenge, wanting to keep the ones he loved by him at all costs etc. make him more ‘like us’. Lucas did the same with Qui Gon, who went out and did what he felt was right, as opposed to coldly sitting around an scratching his chin all day in the Jedi Council. Anyway, that’s what I see as the point of the whole `Jedi can’t love` thing.
#24
Posted 19 October 2005 - 08:16 PM
The whole movie is so cringe inducing it's almost enough to put me in a coma.
#25
Posted 19 October 2005 - 10:47 PM
Well, Yoda's not human for one. But it's a point for Annie, score.
Remember from TPM? Anikan TELLS us, emphatically, he's human- Lucas the master of subtlety slips in another point.
#26
Posted 19 October 2005 - 10:54 PM
Yes,ok.
He tells us he’s a "person" after (rightfully) feeling that Padme demeaned him. It’s got nothing to do with my points above.
#28
Posted 23 December 2005 - 03:45 PM
The whole bit about Jedi not being able to love is something I just can't get over. It just gets brought up after 4 previous movies where no indication is given that it's not okay. The idea that the Jedi aren't supposed to love and Anankin's situation is some sort of reason why they shouldn't is preposterous. The Jedi should be able to love and should be competent enough to balance that with their other Jedi duties.
Furthermore, Yoda's insistence that Anakin let Padme pass out of his life without feeling any grief or even missing here goes far beyond the Jedi's cool and calm philosophical nature and crosses right over into insanity. Sure, the Jedi should be smart and controlled enough to not be overcome with grief but not even having a moment of grief or missing someone is beyond that, it's just crazy.
#29
Posted 23 December 2005 - 09:18 PM
Well I sure can. Namely, the fact that Yoda doesn't go back to finish off Palpatine. He just abandons the entire galaxy and gives up and runs away. I always thought Yoda had more balls.
#30
Posted 23 December 2005 - 09:23 PM
and "finish off" Palpatine?!
This post has been edited by jariten: 23 December 2005 - 09:23 PM