Coruscant Where does the air come from?
#1
Posted 21 June 2005 - 03:31 PM
I've no doubt that GL has already considered this point and has a sensible answer ti explain everything.
#2
Posted 21 June 2005 - 04:17 PM
You're wrong about Lucas, though... he hasn't considered the point, and he almost certainly won't have an explanation. Remember the "Our ability to use the Force has diminished" stuff from AOTC? That didn't make any sense, and did Lucas have an answer? NO! He takes pleasure in letting gushers think that he had Episodes I-VI planned out from day one, but the point is that he can't be bothered to think up reasons for anything anymore.
#3
Posted 21 June 2005 - 09:54 PM
actually no, none would have been better than that...
firstly, plankton in the ocean is what generates a majority of our planetary oxygen.
But the lack of greenery would reduce the amount of ecosystem cycled air...
I'm sure we're supposed to assume there are air factories on Croissant, (or at least O2 scrubbers, and CO2 redistribution refineries, etc. etc. and all the other sci-fi basics) so that the planet is like one big space station, sea lab, or something... the air would be quite dry...
However the lack of green terrain there would suggest a zero agricultural yield and an ecosystem so removed that no native animals could possible inhabit the place... at least no land based animals. It would take rather dense and concentrate Aquatic bionetwork teaming with life to give the planet any realistic balance… but without any connections to a land environment, I’m not sure it would adequately function and offer any real benefit to the land dwellers above…
I assume they would have, given the technologically advanced nature of the galaxy, some manner of clean efficient and non-polluting form of energy. But still…
Seeing as the entire world is more or less one huge city it leaves one asking where all the metals and other construction materials came from. Would that planet truly yield sufficient resources to construct such a vast megopolis? I would have to say that with all the vehicles, weapons, ridiculously tall buildings, sewage systems, roads, pipes, conduits, Air factories, etc. that that planet would have been lucky to be naturally responsible for 10% of the materials used. Which would mean that a majority of the heavy components making up that planets constructed surface was mined off world.
Now, If that’s the case, your talking about a massive overload of mass being added to a planet. Now If you substantially add to the mass of a planet that is orbiting a sun, you are going to wreak havoc with it’s natural orbital course and increase pressure on the planet itself as well as push the atmosphere outward… then with all that built up area, would naturally come more people, aliens, to occupy the available space…
And when that happens it really doesn’t matter how many trees have been cut down…
That planet is truly fucked!!!
It leaves a lot of questions open…
But, then that’s why I have always said these films are fantasy and not sci-fi…
Because in sci-fi, you kind of have to answer for things…
(which further supports that it was wrong for Midichlorians to be introduced (but let’s keep that argument where it belongs)
good thread jxw
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#4
Posted 21 June 2005 - 10:20 PM
Anyway, maybe the planet is hollow. It was mined.
Had to be a city planet.
Desert planet, Ice planet, Fire Planet, Swamp Planet, Forest Planet, Water Planet and Alderaan were already taken.
#5
Posted 22 June 2005 - 01:03 PM
#6
Posted 22 June 2005 - 02:32 PM
I've no doubt that GL has already considered this point and has a sensible answer ti explain everything.
I was just thinking that.
Not to mention potable drinking water, food, etc...
#7
Posted 22 June 2005 - 05:08 PM
I never really thought about the fact that the whole planet is one giant metropolis. Damn that's dumb.
Maybe the planet has a coniferous core, so they just have to drill for air like we drill for oil.
#8
Posted 22 June 2005 - 08:24 PM
#9
Posted 22 June 2005 - 10:01 PM
Maybe the middle of the planet is like a giant, self-replenishing battery?
Good points all. With so many less imports than a self-sufficient planet like NaBOO, you'd think THEY would have a problem with the greedy trade federation. It's not like there's an army of effective warriors nearby or anything.
#10
Posted 23 June 2005 - 11:08 AM
The capital of the galaxy in Asimov's "Foundation" series was also a planet-size metropolis. It's briliantly built about how all the raw materials and food had to be imported from a huge number of supporting nearby systems to support this large burecratical society who only occupied in administering a galaxy. People there developed a natural fear for being "outside" (ie. without an artificial root over them ) and so on... kinda neat and believable.
If you think about it , it's easy to look at New York and say .. men that' impossible: how can all these people get anything to eat: there is nothing but metal and concrete for miles and millions of people would require tons of food. Well guess what: that food is "imported from a huge number of nearby cities" ... well, you get the joke.
What I want to know more is : for a galaxy-sized republic (arround 220.000 billion star systems) why is every PLANET represented in the senate. It's like each house in America would have a representative.... Could I sugest that the Republic's political system is silly ?
#11
Posted 23 June 2005 - 11:31 AM
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#13
Posted 24 June 2005 - 12:42 AM
that planet is an ecological disaster.
they've turned it into one giant wrecking ball...
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#15
Posted 25 June 2005 - 01:17 PM
OK, it's just a movie, but remember, a BAD ONE!
The problem is that lucas doesn't respect his own universe.
It's Ok to take some licences to create a poetic reality but it should be beleaveble!
It seem that he made the fisics up on the run, and in such a mediocre movie overall, that's is unforgettable.
Please a Topic about the School to learn to mount monsters! How's that with obi-wan mounting lizards (ROTS) and circus monsters (AOTC) so easy?
At least, Luke had some time in ESB.
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