Anyway, it was my mistake to argue with you. I actually agree with all of you. I want your nations to embrace your opinions. Especially if you're from the US. America is cannibalizing itself right now and your opinions would help it cannibalize faster. And leave every America denizen at the mercy of the government when the government tries to prevent this trend. Which, for good or ill, will free the world from the grip of this so-called hyperpower or, at the very least, neuter it. Obviously I view your opinions as destructive for society, which is why I endorse them. I advocate my opinions for societies which I want to prosper. We're basically on the same side, you know? In laymen terms, I prefer liberty/capitalism for those I love and equality/socialism for those I hate. (Though that's a false description since capitalism makes everyone interdependent thus equal and your version of equality is imposed which isn't true equality. But I digress.) In short, I support you guys 100%. I was so stupid for trying to convince you guys otherwise. Why the hell would I want you to change your opinions? I guess it was because of ego, as is the reason for nearly all things in relation to the human condition.
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Sorry, guys. I totally forgot about this place.
#1
Posted 05 July 2011 - 05:16 AM
"I felt insulted until I realized that the people trying to mock me were the same intellectual titans who claimed that people would be thrown out of skyscrapers and feudalism would be re-institutionalized if service cartels don't keep getting political favors and regulations are cut down to only a few thousand pages worth, that being able to take a walk in the park is worth driving your nation's economy into the ground, that sexual orientation is a choice that can be changed at a whim, that problems caused by having institutions can be solved by introducing more institutions or strengthening the existing ones that are causing the problems, and many more profound pearls of wisdom. I no longer feel insulted because I now feel grateful for being alive and witnessing such deep conclusions from my fellows."
-Jimmy McTavern, 1938.
-Jimmy McTavern, 1938.
#2
Posted 05 July 2011 - 11:39 AM
That's awesome.
By "I support your opinions because I disagree with them 100%" I assume you mean our preference of butter over margarine? And butter use will eventually destroy America, leading to more margarine use anyway, right?
Well argued. Hey, no, I said that wrong. What I meant was, if you're going to take a several-month-long break, and then you're to return like we missed you and really needed to hear from you, make something smarter than "I am still right, you're still wrong, but I am not clever enough to actually discuss anything, so just, you know, in general, I am right and you are wrong. So wrong in fact that your ideas would ruin society, even though they have failed to do so for hundreds of years. But yeah, carry on being wrong about the non-specific things I'm not clever enough to discuss in any detail."
Your post might have been worse than when another chefelf.com troll came back after a year's absence to declare that his entire persona here had been part of some experiment on human reactions.
Much more interesting would be "you have given me some things to think about. While I disagree with you in general, I have to agree that my tactics in conversation have been too extreme and of course that my specific comments were too off-the-wall to be considered serious. For instance, I don't really believe that cities are filled street-to-street with assault-rifle-wielding thugs. Even though I have never been to a city in my life, I have seen them on television and I acknowledge that this is unlikely. I also conceded that wolves don;t appear to have religion, but there was a point to my hyperbole, which was ****." Something like that would be far more grown-up than "Nyaah nyaah nyaah, I am plugging my ears now!"
Are you ever going to grow up?
By "I support your opinions because I disagree with them 100%" I assume you mean our preference of butter over margarine? And butter use will eventually destroy America, leading to more margarine use anyway, right?
Well argued. Hey, no, I said that wrong. What I meant was, if you're going to take a several-month-long break, and then you're to return like we missed you and really needed to hear from you, make something smarter than "I am still right, you're still wrong, but I am not clever enough to actually discuss anything, so just, you know, in general, I am right and you are wrong. So wrong in fact that your ideas would ruin society, even though they have failed to do so for hundreds of years. But yeah, carry on being wrong about the non-specific things I'm not clever enough to discuss in any detail."
Your post might have been worse than when another chefelf.com troll came back after a year's absence to declare that his entire persona here had been part of some experiment on human reactions.
Much more interesting would be "you have given me some things to think about. While I disagree with you in general, I have to agree that my tactics in conversation have been too extreme and of course that my specific comments were too off-the-wall to be considered serious. For instance, I don't really believe that cities are filled street-to-street with assault-rifle-wielding thugs. Even though I have never been to a city in my life, I have seen them on television and I acknowledge that this is unlikely. I also conceded that wolves don;t appear to have religion, but there was a point to my hyperbole, which was ****." Something like that would be far more grown-up than "Nyaah nyaah nyaah, I am plugging my ears now!"
Are you ever going to grow up?
This post has been edited by civilian_number_two: 07 July 2011 - 10:11 PM
"I had a lot of different ideas. At one point, Luke, Leia and Ben were all going to be little people, and we did screen tests to see if we could do that." -George Lucas, in STAR WARS: the Annotated Screenplays (p197).
#3
Posted 06 July 2011 - 08:40 AM
LMFAO. Stay classy, CNT.
"I felt insulted until I realized that the people trying to mock me were the same intellectual titans who claimed that people would be thrown out of skyscrapers and feudalism would be re-institutionalized if service cartels don't keep getting political favors and regulations are cut down to only a few thousand pages worth, that being able to take a walk in the park is worth driving your nation's economy into the ground, that sexual orientation is a choice that can be changed at a whim, that problems caused by having institutions can be solved by introducing more institutions or strengthening the existing ones that are causing the problems, and many more profound pearls of wisdom. I no longer feel insulted because I now feel grateful for being alive and witnessing such deep conclusions from my fellows."
-Jimmy McTavern, 1938.
-Jimmy McTavern, 1938.
#4
Posted 06 July 2011 - 07:36 PM
So, I've recently suffered some brain trauma that has left me both stupid and gullible. As a result, I completely believe that you are allowing us to have our own opinions on our own forums (thanks for that!) in order to bring about the demise of American civilization, or, at least, American hegemony. But that that STILL begs the question of why you (ineffectually) tried to convince us to change our ideas. Would it not have been better to support us in our clearly wrong ideas that the Japanese brought the US in to ww2 when it was CLEARLY FDR, or the theory that the Iroquis were communists, or not-communists, or an oligarchy.
So if our position against drafting the unemployed for cannon fodder/slave labor was helping to bring about your goals somehow, why did you try to convince us otherwise? Are you actually trying to save the US covertly? Are you working for the CIA? Is your head full of delicious crack-flavored braaaaains?
Your idea of liberty is every man for himself hyper-violent corporate anarchism. You have advocated that the random shooting of elected representatives such as Rep. Giffords is justified and indeed necessary. You have suggested that the preferred, non-bureaucratic method of settling disputes between a person and a business, a person and another person, or two businesses, is not the BBB or legal system, but the CQB and militia system. Liberty does not exist where there is that much shrapnel. Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome was NOT to be taken as a utopian political suggestion. Please stop suggesting that any of this is for the betterment of society. Your political ideas, and I'm being charitable when I call them such, are only meant to bring about a post apocalyptic video game version of the world that you think would be entertaining. I disagree.
Also, assuming that our idea of "lets not hand out assault weapons to pre-schoolers" will lead to an Orwellian dictatorship, well, ok, thats bad for us. But how will that help the rest of the world? If Obama becomes President For Life will he deal more justly with our neighbors? I dont think so. Is that where the cannibalism comes in? I'm really unclear on how this helps anyone at all.
On an unrelated note, welcome back, buddy!
So if our position against drafting the unemployed for cannon fodder/slave labor was helping to bring about your goals somehow, why did you try to convince us otherwise? Are you actually trying to save the US covertly? Are you working for the CIA? Is your head full of delicious crack-flavored braaaaains?
Your idea of liberty is every man for himself hyper-violent corporate anarchism. You have advocated that the random shooting of elected representatives such as Rep. Giffords is justified and indeed necessary. You have suggested that the preferred, non-bureaucratic method of settling disputes between a person and a business, a person and another person, or two businesses, is not the BBB or legal system, but the CQB and militia system. Liberty does not exist where there is that much shrapnel. Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome was NOT to be taken as a utopian political suggestion. Please stop suggesting that any of this is for the betterment of society. Your political ideas, and I'm being charitable when I call them such, are only meant to bring about a post apocalyptic video game version of the world that you think would be entertaining. I disagree.
Also, assuming that our idea of "lets not hand out assault weapons to pre-schoolers" will lead to an Orwellian dictatorship, well, ok, thats bad for us. But how will that help the rest of the world? If Obama becomes President For Life will he deal more justly with our neighbors? I dont think so. Is that where the cannibalism comes in? I'm really unclear on how this helps anyone at all.
On an unrelated note, welcome back, buddy!
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I don't know about you but I have never advocated that homosexuals, for any reason, be cut out of their mother's womb and thrown into a bin.
#5
Posted 07 July 2011 - 02:26 AM
Is there a classy way to say "stay classy, cnt?" Is it easier to feign indignity when you have nothing to say? These and many other questions ... will not be addressed here, because who cares?
"I had a lot of different ideas. At one point, Luke, Leia and Ben were all going to be little people, and we did screen tests to see if we could do that." -George Lucas, in STAR WARS: the Annotated Screenplays (p197).
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