[Deepsycher]

Get over the whole X-mas thing and just write Christ. That is what the holiday was originally about, not a comercialistic bonanza of people spending too much money on trivial inconsequential gifts. Although that necessarily isnt a bad thing :)

Just curiously noting the excessive activity outside and enquiring. I prefer Christmas as it sounds like a proper name. Anyway Christmas holidays can be different for those with choices. I choose to sleep mine out as long as possible.

[Dr Lecter]

Christmas is just another day, it bears no significance to Christianity and the world today. Although being an athesist I may be abit biased, but I still think that Christians should read the Koran and then tell me where all these remarks alot of them come out with are in there.

[Deepsycher]

Christmas is just another day, it bears no significance to Christianity and the world today. Although being an athesist I may be abit biased, but I still think that Christians should read the Koran and then tell me where all these remarks alot of them come out with are in there.

I can believe that as the real birthdate and information conflict on Christian groups.
To me the myth of the ten commandments are simple to the point of decency. Could be why some bibles were made to justify the opposed.

This post has been edited by Deepsycher: 04 January 2006 - 05:58 PM

[Spoon Poetic]

Point 1: X is in fact, "shorthand for Christ," in a way; for those of you that don't believe this, Wikipedia is God, have a read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-mas

Point 2: Dr. Lecter; I have read a lot of the Koran, and the verses I assume you're talking about (non-Muslims = bad, etc etc) are actually in there. Granted, there are other verses that say the opposite - honestly, the Koran contradicts itself quite a bit. *ahem* The Bible's not the only self-contradictory piece of religious literature out there.

Point C: Christmas bears no significance to Christianity today? Pray tell me I misunderstood you. Christmas is a very important holiday to Christians, and while they have adopted a lot of the secular commercialism that most non-Christians think of when they hear "Christmas," most of its value comes from the celebration of the gift God gave to man, regardless of what particular date that may or may not have been.

Point π: Come on, of COURSE people fought over the Tickle-Me-Elmo dolls! They were Elmo! They were ticklish! They vibrated. Who wouldn't kill 37 single mothers to get their hands on one of those babies?

[Slade]

Spoon: Good point. I'd kill 37 mothers just to see the damned things burned... I hate Elmo.

And XP is short for Christ too? Clearly, God's work is killing kobalds!

[Deepsycher]

So I see now, "X" does resemble the cross image wise, and according to the Greeks, but still prefer the long name. I did not know that Tickle Me Elmo dolls was an event over fought dolls. Were better methods of marketing the dolls to suit the demand? And civilised ways of being patient?

http://en.wikipedia..../Tickle_Me_Elmo

Personally cannot see values in dolls, and this "must have culture". The advantages appears suit the negative situations more, like the demand was perfect for naturally raising profit. So they do not need to take responsbility into making enough for a nation that is enticed by a "must have product". Also as an attempt to stop the product becoming devalued after a while. Just my point of view.

A simple phrase: Must buy only what I need.

This post has been edited by Deepsycher: 05 January 2006 - 07:13 AM

[Dr Lecter]

Blah, Christianity isn't even totally true to what Jesus is suppose to have said, they cut out parts that they didn't agree with. I just hate Christianity, ignore me if you please.

[ion eon]

*sigh* Christmas was originally a Roman pegan holiday where men got drunk and it turned into, basically, an orgy.

And I see no discrepancy between what Jesus said and what Christianity actually is. And no, they did not cut out parts, there was so much and some of the stuff was just useless. There are many deviations from actual Christianity, however.

[Jordan]

Christmas for Christians is about Christ, Family, Presents, and time off work.

Christmas for atheists is about Presents, Family, and time off work.

X-mas is short hand of Christ

Only kids really enjoy Christmas day.

Having two weeks of no school/work makes people happy.

The end.

This post has been edited by Jordan: 05 January 2006 - 05:32 PM

[Spoon Poetic]

Slade: Not actually XP, but Chi Rho. The Greek characters for the hard "kh" sound, and then the "r" sound.

Either that, or we've all missed the true meaning of X-mas: Jesus only came to Earth cuz God is a very cruel GM.



Dr. Lecter; why do you single Christianity out to hate, and not any other religions? Just curious.

[Dr Lecter]

Mainly because I used to be a Christian, thus I hate Christianity with a passion.

[Despondent]

"Jesus Loves You"

[Dr Lecter]

Nooooooooooooooooooo that was the line that converted me to atheism!

[ion eon]

That's curious. So you became atheistic because a supreme being loved you and was going to save you from eternity in a firey black void?

That makes sense...*sarcastic undertone*

The way I see it you have nothing to lose by believing in something and everything to lose by not.

[Dr Lecter]

I believe in something, it just happens to be that Christianity is bullshit...

The way I see it, I would rather burn in hell for eternity for being wrong about religion, than spending my whole life living as a Christian.