[Jejef Thgaron]

You know what though, when I was little I believed those ewoks were real. My little brother, who was about the same age as I was when rotj came out, never once believed the cgi gungans were real.

I can see why. They're freakin' clown shoes. I never truly believed the Ewoks were real, either, though... mainly because of the large seams running down their bodies. They might as well have put zippers on their chests.

[ion eon]

Ya, you can tell when something is computer generated

[Jejef Thgaron]

Back to Dooku not having the Sith eyes... He wasn't a Sith. He was just a rogue Jedi. Remember in AOTC when he mentioned Qui-Gon may have sided with him? Qui-Gon may have sided with him, for the same reason Dooku left the Order. Qui-Gon was a bit of a rogue Jedi, also. He wanted to train Anakin despite the Council's orders, and he even told Anakin to observe what he does as if to train him in secrecy.

Qui-Gon viewed the Jedi Council as a bunch of old, arrogant fools. He was tired of being their yes-man, just like Dooku. I think this explains why Qui-Gon was able to find immortality after he was turned into the Force by Maul. He didn't have the old, arrogant fools telling him what to do and he had become one with the Force. I don't think Dooku liked the fact that the Council considered him a yes-man, either, and he left the Order to pursue claiming his rightful "Count" title.

Dooku didn't really want to be part of an Order, whether Jedi or Sith, due to his nobility and individuality. He was just a little misguided because Sidious had offered him a broader spectrum of power to go with his newly obtained Count title. All Dooku had to do was lead a crusade to different worlds in order to acquire a 'feasible' opposition to the Republic. I think Dooku was decieved into thinking it was alright to go against the Jedi traditions, when deep down inside he knew better.

[Sailor Abbey]

Back to Dooku not having the Sith eyes... He wasn't a Sith. He was just a rogue Jedi. Dooku didn't really want to be part of an Order, whether Jedi or Sith, due to his nobility and individuality. He was just a little misguided because Sidious had offered him a broader spectrum of power to go with his newly obtained Count title. All Dooku had to do was lead a crusade to different worlds in order to acquire a 'feasible' opposition to the Republic. I think Dooku was decieved into thinking it was alright to go against the Jedi traditions, when deep down inside he knew better.

Here’s another example of a radical claim. There is nothing in the films to suggest that Dooku is anything but a Sith Lord. So GL managed to confuse the hell out of his audience with Dooku's character, but his name was Darth Tyrannus for christssake. Do you really think Lucas is clever enough to have made him some kind of double crossing crusader? I don't. Because if that’s what Lucas wanted to do, he would have made it so obvious throughout the PTs that there would be no mistake about it. You're giving him way to much credit here.

[Jejef Thgaron]

Here’s another example of a radical claim. There is nothing in the films to suggest that Dooku is anything but a Sith Lord. So GL managed to confuse the hell out of his audience with Dooku's character, but his name was Darth Tyrannus for christssake. Do you really think Lucas is clever enough to have made him some kind of double crossing crusader? I don't. Because if that’s what Lucas wanted to do, he would have made it so obvious throughout the PTs that there would be no mistake about it. You're giving him way to much credit here.

Just because someone uses dark Force abilities, it doesn't make them a Sith. You did watch the Clone Wars animation, right? Observe what Dooku says to Asajj Ventress.

And yes... you're quite astute, it is a radical claim... meaning it was a very thorough and complete claim. Almost as if I had studied the character of Count Dooku... very interesting...

[Sailor Abbey]

Just because someone uses dark Force abilities, it doesn't make them a Sith. You did watch the Clone Wars animation, right? Observe what Dooku says to Asajj Ventress.

And yes... you're quite astute, it is a radical claim... meaning it was a very thorough and complete claim. Almost as if I had studied the character of Count Dooku... very interesting...

Darth Sidious called him Darth Tyrannus. He WAS a Sith Lord.

No I did not watch the Clone Wars animation. It looked really stupid - the animation was terrible, and I just dont think I should have to watch some stupid cartoon to understand the movies.

Jejef, you have proven your ability to look up words in the dictionary. Let it go already.

[barend]

i reakon the clones wars cartoons wouldn't be too bad stoned

[Sailor Abbey]

i reakon the clones wars cartoons wouldn't be too bad stoned

I bet the PT wouldn’t be bad to watch high either. What does that tell ya.

[Revan-47]

"You're no match for him, he's a sith lord."
-Palpatine

"Sith lords are our speciality."
-Obi-wan Kenobi

here's two very intelligent and clued in people saying he's a sith. EVIDENCE

[barend]

"You're no match for him, he's a sith lord."
-Palpatine

"Sith lords are our speciality."
-Obi-wan Kenobi

here's two very intelligent and clued in people saying he's a sith. EVIDENCE

and two very relaibale sources.

"Darth Vader killed your father"
-Obi-wan Kenobi

"Help, I'm too weak."
-Senetor 'PWR unlimited PWR!!111!!' Palpatine

[barend]

I bet the PT wouldn’t be bad to watch high either. What does that tell ya.

alchohol makes bad things seem okay.
pot makes exposes layers and depth... but if something is animated it makes it a little more realistic...

[Jejef Thgaron]

So because these "clued in" people say he's a Sith Lord, he's a Sith? If that's the case, then I'm Samuel L. Jackson!

While I'm not taking the intelligence factor away from Obi-Wan, I would hardly say he's clued in... he can't tell there's a Sith Lord sitting in the chair watching him fight Dooku!

Palpatine calls him a Sith Lord because he's in "Supreme Chancellor of the Republic" mode, and he's trying to make Dooku look like THE Sith Lord, not just one of the crew. He's acting naive in order to persuade Obi-Wan into thinking Dooku is a Sith. That still doesn't mean Dooku is a Sith!

[ion eon]

This is all becoming a tangled net of Star Wars madness

[Sailor Abbey]

So because these "clued in" people say he's a Sith Lord, he's a Sith? If that's the case, then I'm Samuel L. Jackson!

While I'm not taking the intelligence factor away from Obi-Wan, I would hardly say he's clued in... he can't tell there's a Sith Lord sitting in the chair watching him fight Dooku!

Palpatine calls him a Sith Lord because he's in "Supreme Chancellor of the Republic" mode, and he's trying to make Dooku look like THE Sith Lord, not just one of the crew. He's acting naive in order to persuade Obi-Wan into thinking Dooku is a Sith. That still doesn't mean Dooku is a Sith!

Why are you trading clear and concise evidence for speculative nonsense that you just made up?

You might as well be saying, Luke Skywalker wasn’t actually a Jedi, he was just some kid who wanted the glory of killing the Emperor so he tricked Yoda and Kenobi into thinking he cared about becoming a Jedi when really he just wanted to learn some cool skills.

[ion eon]

Why are you trading clear and concise evidence for speculative nonsense that you just made up?

You might as well be saying, Luke Skywalker wasn’t actually a Jedi, he was just some kid who wanted the glory of killing the Emperor so he tricked Yoda and Kenobi into thinking he cared about becoming a Jedi when really he just wanted to learn some cool skills.

that is what happened