[princesskadee]

theres a scene in ep III that has always bothered me......................

The scene is towards the beginning. Mace Windu is talking to Anakin (and i think Obi-wan too). There is a good size crowd standing behind Mace as he is talking.

To Mace's immediate left in the background, there is what looks like a fat white girl who's face is entirely painted in blue makeup. This girl is constantly rolling her eyes, as if she is saying in Valspeak ("like,.Oh-my-gawd...what am i doing in this nerdy movie...kill me already or something..this movie is suuch a joke. puhhh-leeasee)

If she despises her role, the SW films, or GL, she obvious shouldnt have been cast at all, and the role should have been given to someone else who would have been much more appreciative and deserving of the role.

I seriously doubt this chick knows anything at all about SW canon, how she got the role is beyond me.

If anyone could locate a screenshot of her with her eyes rolled towards the sky and post it on this thread for all to see,.i would be appreciative.

[Vesuvius]

Yeah, that girl is Lucas' daughter. Seriously.

It should all fit now.

This post has been edited by Vesuvius: 06 November 2008 - 07:13 PM

[Commodore]

She also makes a mercifully brief appearance in Episode II as a Twi'lek bar fly in the Coruscant cantina. She looks jarringly out of place in that scene too.

[makingfun22_sw]

may i add one more?
George Lucas directed it

[Hoth]

There are two things about the prequels that I can't believe I haven't heard anyone mention..

1) The lightsaber colors...in the Original Trilogy it was a simple blue, green or red. Now every time we see a so called "Jedi" we might as well just pick out a marshmellow color from a bowl of Lucky Charms, it's just ridiculous...I read somewhere that Samuel L. Jackson picked out his color before the movie even started being filmed...why??? Why would he even be given the choice??? And what, did they suddenly run out of purple, pink and bronze lightsabers by the time ANH came around? At least in one way I guess it fits the standard of the prequels with everything being brighter and shinier than in the Original Trilogy...even the Death Star looked like one big piece of chrome compared to the Death Star in ANH...the reasons why are insignificant really, the lightsabers colors are just another way in which the prequels are inconsistent, dumb and over-complicated.

2) This may be a little nitpicky, but I just can't stand the names of anyone or anything in the prequels. Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Boba Fett...all of those names had flow to them, they were catchy and just to put it in a child's terminology they sounded cool. Even the names of the planets, Dantooine, Degobah, Alderaan, they just sounded cool. All the names in the prequels (like everything else) sounds like they put no time into thinking about them at all...Naboo? Are you freaking kidding me? Mustafar (Too similar to Simba's father's name in The Lion King)? Mon Calamari (Anyone for dinner? How stupid is that name? G.L. must love seafood) The Gungans? "Shmi" Skywalker? Mace Windu? Qui-Gon Jinn (the worst one)? Jango Fett? Oh and please lest I forget everyone's favorite stupid-looking Jedi that just looks like he has fan-paint on his face (Seriously he just looks like a fan at a raiders game), Darth Maul...None of them sound catchy...they just sound bungled & rushed. I hate G.L.

There you go...anyone else agree? I just thought I would add a couple more to the thousands of reasons that already exist to hate the prequels...so I will just go on pretending they don't exist and keep watching the Original Trilogy. May the Force be with you!!!!!

Steven

This post has been edited by Hoth: 01 January 2009 - 11:37 PM

[Vesuvius]

Hmmm, the names are a little absurd for the PT, but then the name Mace was an old concept before any actual draft was written before '77. Qui-Gon Jinn just sounds like an (and looks like) an asian body exercise along with a martini. Jango is by far the worst name I've seen yet. However with "Maul" I personally thought it was alright... a little too blatant, but alright.

As with lightsabers, I kind of have to defend the PT argument because (story wise) Luke never knew of any crystal caves in the OT and he made his own lightsaber crystal. I'm sure all the colors were to show off a bit, but I find the story suitable that the numerous colors were used to discern affiliation/rank, whatever. Besides, go into the books after RotJ and all the colors pop right back up again.

[Chefelf]

I agree with the lightsaber colors. The names (like all made up names) are hit and miss and even the dumb ones grow on you with time.

It is conceivable that lightsabers should be able to be any color but I agree that the colors in the PT were a little gratuitous. I'm willing to let that slide in lieu of many other atrocities.

[Mr Pye]

The name Jango always put me in mind of orange flavoured soda pop. And Darth Maul well a Darth is a Darth in Star Wars though maybe Maul is a little obvious, and yet probably no more than Sidious.

And if I'm allowed a very poor pun it is perhaps fitting that both elements of the name Jar-Jar jar.

Anyway wether the names of the prequels were less intuitive than those of the old trilogy or not they are just one of many ways in which I find the prequels lacking a focus of style. If we are to be honest the old movies were about humans, with the odd alien thrown in here and there, but mostly it was all human. Empire had their texture and their colours, the rebellion had theirs but still they belonged together. Uniforms were clean cut and very human, thanks to John Mollo, influences were exclusively European or American, language was universal excepting a growl or two, and if one background character was alike another, well that only helped the main characters to stand out the better. Altogether is was a close and well knit habitat.

With the prequels I found myself bothered that all of this was not the case. Why is for someone else to philosophize about, I only know the combined hash of the prequels did not appeal to me. CGI allowed the world to be much more diversly populized with a myriad of aliens that the story never needed. The abundance of aliens is then complemented by an abundance of human cultural influences, with everything from Geisha queen Amidala in her Baroque palace to 17th century farming woman Schmii, not to mention American teen rebel Anakin on his Hover-Davidsson. Costumes, clothes, uniforms, make-up, language dialects and just about everything has been determined quite individaully of anything else in the movie. Which brings us to the inevitable drawback. Nothing in the movie seems to belong with anything else in the movie.

The prequels are like westerns with the Zulu tribe facing of against the Ukrainian cossacks. Alltogether I would betten enjoy a rendition of Abdul Abulbul Amir or Mbube. Just not at the same time.

Bayete!

[Vesuvius]

The name Jango always put me in mind of orange flavoured soda pop.

Nothing in the movie seems to belong with anything else in the movie.

That's funny, I too thought of sweetened beverages when I heard the name Jango.

As for your comment on anything belonging with anything else, oh yeah. I see it too. I don't think I've noticed it in these terms before, but now that you've put it that way along with your examples, I see it all too well.

Not much fits with anything here and visual effects are used to cover it all up.

[Hoth]

The names (like all made up names) are hit and miss and even the dumb ones grow on you with time.

Not too sure I agree with this one...I don't really have an intelligent argument why...I just don't think the name Qui-Gon Jinn (among many others) will EVER grow on me.

Of course I will never watch another prequel as long as I live either, so I don't think any of them will have the chance...unless of course my five-year old forces me to watch one with him. You know, he's too young to realize how absolutely stupid they are...he just loves the special effects, and he thinks Jar-Jar's funny...get where I'm going with this?

I will say though when I was growing up the nickname that neighborhood kids used to make fun of me was "Miracle Whip" (you know like the mayonnaise?) because my last name is Miracle...I despised it then, and that has grown on me so much over time that I get a kick out of it now...so maybe Qui-Gon WILL grow on me...

Actually, NO he won't...

This post has been edited by Hoth: 10 January 2009 - 04:15 AM

[Gobbler]

Of course I will never watch another prequel as long as I live either, so I don't think any of them will have the chance...unless of course my five-year old forces me to watch one with him. You know, he's too young to realize how absolutely stupid they are...he just loves the special effects, and he thinks Jar-Jar's funny...get where I'm going with this?

Try sending him back for a refund.

[KurganX]

"Jango" is a name Lucas stole from an old spagetti western series (pronounced "John-goe"), much like how "Commando Cody" (and a later ripoff "Commander Cody" from an album) was a character from a 40's/50's movie serial (lampooned in MST3K) called "Radar Men from the Moon). He even had the guns and jetpack.

Of course the entire Boba Fett character is ripped off, it's just going more toward its roots with the prequel incarnation.

Of course ChefElf's take on this was quite hilarious (Paw-toot, indeed!).

This post has been edited by KurganX: 11 January 2009 - 06:11 PM

[Chefelf]

I saw 'Django' when I was in England in 1993. That movie made AOTC look like a masterpiece by comparison. I can't believe it inspired Lucas to do anything other than to stop watching it. That was the only thing I was inspired by.

[KurganX]

That bad huh? So I guess I'm not missing much. The way I heard tell about it, it sounded like it was some epic on the level of Clint Eastwood's most memorable performances.

[steje73]

Watched this again yesterday and noticed something that really boiled my piss.
In the bog-awful sperm opera scene, when ever Palpatine says anything to Anakin he is facing forward and sloooowly turns his head before speaking. Every time.
Useless.