The Mustafar Duel What a lucky coincidence...
#16
Posted 12 July 2005 - 02:31 AM
what about that enormous bottemless pit built into Cloud City for no reason? and what about that REALLY STUPID platform jutting out into it for no reason? could these guys think of a more contrived location for their climax? GOD, I JUST REALISED THAT THESE FILMS ARE AIMED AT 12 YEAR OLD BOYS. What was I thinking all these years?
#18
Posted 12 July 2005 - 04:35 AM
#19
Posted 12 July 2005 - 08:13 AM
Good point. For maximum effect, they should have had the duel
on THE SUN!
#21
Posted 12 July 2005 - 11:34 AM
The PTs, esp. ROTS, all remind me of entire movie scripts written via that old kiddies fun n' games book, "Mad-Libs", where there's a silly story with blanks in it, you ask a friend for goofy words to write in the blanks ("give me the name of a color, a zoo animal, a place, and a type of food!") You write what your friend says in the blanks and then read the "zany" story back to them in its entirety, with the words they've chosen in it, so you end up with something like : "The purple elephant went to the bank and ate a key lime pie!" and everyone laughs (well, if you're 8 years old)
I'm sure Lucas spent most of his time writing ROTS sitting by the pool with his assistant in situations like this:
assistant:
"OK, Mr. Lucas, I need an animal, the name of something commonly found in a room or office, and a geographical feature!"
lucas:
"Ummm, let me think a sec: 'lizard', 'a window', and 'a volcano'. How's that?"
assistant (writing):
"Fine, let me just fill in the blanks and read it all back to you...'Once Obi-wan wins the battle he began while riding his giant lizard, triumph is short-lived because not long afterwards Mace is killed by a window, leading eventually to a show-down on a planet that is one huge volcano!"
lucas:
"Wow--sounds great to me! Call 20th Century Fox and tell them we're certain to have this all ready for May 2005 at the rate we're going! Oh, and bring me another burrito, OK? I'm gonna need some brain food if we're gonna work at this rate."
#23
Posted 12 July 2005 - 12:35 PM
The lava from an eruption lands on the platform causing it to melt and break. GREAT DESIGN ASSHOLES! Maybe you should have built it a little higher.
Next, the platform falls into the lava vertically... and doesn't melt! What kind of shit is that? A teensy bit of lava will cause it to melt clear to the core and break! Yet it can float on lava without melting? What, was the part that was hit by the lava the only place it was vulnerable to lava?
How about building the platform out of the same alloy they used for the lava droids and their buckets. Now that would've been sumthin'.
#24
Posted 12 July 2005 - 02:16 PM
The whole sequence just looks so fakey to me!
As for the array. I would've liked it better if one their sabers had inadvertently cut a support cable and the thing fell...
As for the "bottomless pit" thing that makes perfect sense to me. How else are they extracting all the gases they're bottling from the air? Suck it inside and distill it.
This post has been edited by CowboyCurtis: 12 July 2005 - 02:17 PM
Battle for the Galaxy--read the "other Star Wars"
All I know is I haven't seen the real prequels yet.
#25
Posted 12 July 2005 - 07:13 PM
The ultimate, unanswerable defence of Lucas's gawdawful prequels: "The other movies suck just as badly!" Not much of a defence, really.
And Jariten is right; the setting of the climactic duel in ESB is contrived - at least the last half of it is. So why does it matter less? The most important reason is that there's more to the movie than that one duel; by contrast there's not much more to the prequels than action set-pieces. Also the fight itself in ESB is more serious. The PT lightsabre battles are full of little flourishes, spins, and twirls; it is all too obvious that these are not real battles but tediously choreographed ballets, whereas in ESB the two opponents just whale away at each other.
And, however contrived the ESB duel's setting might be, at least Luke doesn't fall into molten rock and yet survive somehow. How over-the-top can you get?
#26
Posted 12 July 2005 - 07:31 PM
Stop! Stop! I'm laughing too hard from that last line!
Jawa, you're too much.
That's going into my scrapbook of hilarious posts.
Thanks, I needed a laugh
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#27
Posted 12 July 2005 - 07:34 PM
If they are doing it in a volcano, why does the whole planet have to be volcanic? Couldn't it have taken place near an active volcano say, on Alderaan?
#28
Posted 12 July 2005 - 08:41 PM
It reminded me of that James Bond movie from a few years ago where he wind-surfs an avalanche, or one of those 50's Donnie and Marie flicks where they're surfing but the background is so fake you have to laugh.
God lord, that was bad.
I hope I live long enough to see the day someone tries to remake the PT. They'll probably cut all the crap and replace it with a lot of cool ideas that should have been there to begin with. It'll be one of those rare instances where the remake is ten times better than the original.
#29
Posted 12 July 2005 - 11:18 PM
That's a pretty good analogy.
I hope I live long enough to see the day someone tries to remake the PT. They'll probably cut all the crap and replace it with a lot of cool ideas that should have been there to begin with. It'll be one of those rare instances where the remake is ten times better than the original.
That's what I hope for one day, too. They just look over all the clues given in the OOT and base it HARD on that information. If he's a 'starpilot' when Obi-Wan first meets him, then he's a starpilot. If he's a good friend, he's a good friend....
Battle for the Galaxy--read the "other Star Wars"
All I know is I haven't seen the real prequels yet.
#30
Posted 12 July 2005 - 11:24 PM
Remember Chefelfs oh so insightful WIND critique? REMEMBER THE LANDING PLATFORM ON CLOUD CITY? If you dont complain about why han and the others werent blown off then YOU ARE LAME.
The whole thing is tired, really really tired.