**PADME SPOILER** you've been warned...
#17
Posted 17 May 2005 - 08:39 AM
isn't it?
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#18
Posted 17 May 2005 - 08:40 AM
Ooo! OOO! I can answer that. Midichlorians!
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#19
Posted 17 May 2005 - 08:42 AM
yay!!! is there anything they can't explain?!?
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#21
Posted 17 May 2005 - 08:59 AM
everyone does eventually...
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#22
Posted 17 May 2005 - 09:12 AM
I'll give my explanation for Naboo's liquid centre: Lucas fell asleep once while watching Total Recall and dreamt that the whole core of Mars is ice. He woke up thinking that was a really cool idea.
#23
Posted 17 May 2005 - 09:20 AM
To be honest, I don`t like this idea that much either, it reminded me of Dragonball Z!:
Yoda: My midichlorian count, 15 000 it is!
Sidious: Mine is 20 000( bursts into sinister laughter!)
#24
Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:06 AM
Padme diad just after the birth, or so I understand from the bunch of spoilerific reviews.
When Padme was dying, she was freaking dying, not sad. Would you describe someone dying as sad? Moreover, would you bring a newborn to watch her mother die?
If she looked into Leia's eyes, why not Luke's eyes? She dies just between giving births?
Why do you have to do this? Why not just admit this is sloppy writing? Why not think for yourself, boyos, instead of just accepting the processed food of propaganda? Accept that Lucas in no fecking God, he is just a guy who can't write and whatever he writes is not a Scripture anyway?
Gosh, I am really worked up. Stop being apologetic, see sense!
It's completely insane. A newborn baby wouldn't even be able to SEE properly, let alone interpret what they saw as 'beautiful' and 'sad' (and doesn't she say 'kind' as well? Heaven knows how she managed to work that one out.) And if she's using the Force to remember her mother (how?) then why on earth can't Luke do the same thing? He's a trained Jedi, whereas Leia doesn't even realise she's Force-sensitive at this point. It's a blatant continuity error, pure and simple, and all the logic-defying excuses in the world won't explain this one away.
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#26
Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:55 AM
When was Padme ever quote unquote "kind"? She put Anakin down in front of her whole staff with her "Oh Anakin's not a Jedi Master, he's still learning." in AOTC and then she's telling him they can't have a relationship while she's wearing a strapless leather dress. What was she trying to do to the guy? Drive his mental and emotional instability up another notch?
Anyway back on topic, yes, it is a very stupid situation with the twins and the births.
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an obi-wan to go.
#28
Posted 17 May 2005 - 12:46 PM
#29
Posted 17 May 2005 - 12:48 PM
Not only that, but if we allow against all the laws of probability that Leia was so strong in latent Force-power that she actually could remember Padme, how could she not have known from the beginning that Luke was her twin brother? Or maybe newborns have incredible force powers from the moment they emerge from the womb, but not a second before.
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I mean, after spending nine months in the same womb, she should remember Luke as well. I don't know whether they are separated and whisked to different locations the very second they slide out of the birth canal in ROTS, but I'm willing to bet they were together long enough after birth for Leia to have just as much memory of having a twin brother as of her mother.
Yes, I know Leia says in ROTJ, "Somehow I've always known," in reference to Luke being her brother, but we all know that was an afterthought on Lucas's part as well. There is no way that Leia knows Luke is her brother in ANH.
#30
Posted 17 May 2005 - 01:01 PM
I agree 100%. In addition there are many other details concerning the birth/Padmés death etc. that defy logic. If Padmé dies because of grief wouldn't the birth of the twins give her something to live for? Love for her children would IMHO overcome almosty anything. Protecting her kids from the empire, making sure that they grow up safely. As always Lucas decisions on emotional content is like something out of Monty Python. Consider this slightly illogical chain of events:
1. Padmé falls for Anakin, an unpleasant, whiny psycho.
2. Anakin and Padmé decide to have children.
3. Anakin murders children because he "loves" Padmé and he doesn't wan't to loose her.
4. Anakin hates Padmé for choosing Obi-Wans side and subsequently force chokes her.
5. Padmés "heart is broken" and she gives up on life just after delivering the twins.
6. Leia remembers her mom after a few seconds of eye contact just after her birth.
An oversight or two is forgivable but not every single f**king time. Am I wrong to find a certain amount of perverse pleasure in thrashing Georges stupid storyline?