ZP - Super Smash Bros Brawl
#31
Posted 24 April 2008 - 10:07 AM
1. Yahtzee usually praises a game for being different, but not in this case. Unlike usual fighter games, Smash Bros is a completely different franchise from the rest of them out there.
2. Button mashing is great in smash, except when you figure out where the block button is and push "a" while blocking to grab. Maybe you should of shared that "How to play" manual Yahtzee. You cannot button mash in Smash against someone who doesn't, you'll lose. Also, if you button mash over the edge you die. Saying this game is bad because you and your twat friends didn't bother learning how to play it, is pretty goddamn stupid.
3. Yahtzee had a very large lacking knowledge of how to unlock characters, usually bragging about how he knows how to use gamefaqs, this wasn't the case again for this review.
4. The point of Brawl was to reuse trademark characters. Complaining about that's just shallow. Running out of material to stretch our your reviews?
I'm kind of puzzled as why Yahtzee reviewed this game. Almost everyone who has owned a past Nintendo console loved Smash, and a large majority of Xbox and Playstation nerds love the game aswell. If you wanted to get rid of your fanbase, I'm sure there are better methods to go about it. Don't let my negativity try and convince you I haven't been a loyal Yahtzee fan for years, but good grief this is just terrible. Sadly this post has dragged out too long and I don't want to be associated with the rest of the silly SSBB fans in this thread so I'll just end it by saying
Raise your standards a little higher Yahtzee.
#32
Posted 24 April 2008 - 10:10 AM
Second, i wasn't referring to you with my experience in fighting games, (but it does seem like it applies.)
Third, I'm not a console fanboy. I am a open-gamer, with my primary platform as woodix. If you don't know what that is, (you should be able to guess), go back to your point and drool interface.
Fourth, my gaming experience. My collection of NES games spans 400 titles alone, and my complete collection spans well over 2500 physical games.
Of emulated and computer games, most being free to obtain, my collection is much larger. Of oldschool games, I own an amiga, a C64, an apple II, seven different ataris, a wondercom . . .
If you wish to have a pissing contest about gaming experience, I can match you. My uncles are all pretty tech-savy guys and as such, i had a blessed part of my childhood where nothing was lacking.
Onto the meat of your post.
Punch combos.
I only need to smash once. That once is when you are highly damaged, and one throws you off the stage. Until then, i only need to keep in control of the fight, which is easy enough.
Also, regarding what you believe to be classic fighting games . . . . no. just . . . no. The over popularized stuff always changes from the actual genre because it needs to attract less hardcore fans. If you want real fighting games, search the nets for some open source stuff. I guarantee you that you'll be able to find at least one that you consider absolutely impossible from the very first level. (and when you do, i'll be glad to try and show you how its done. But there are games out there that i can't beat either.)
And onto the last bit of your post.
I've found that every single move in the game is useful, somehow. If you don't find a move useful, then you haven't tried hard enough, aren't creative enough, etc. (of course, this excludes "fun" moves like, say, taunting the enemy.) Seriously, kirbys rock falling move is one of the most broken moves in the game, used properly. Recall, for instance, that he can't be hit while in the morph, (for a few hits until he breaks), and falls faster. Immediately you can use this for travel. But the speed of entering the attack is the real winner. The most commonly used combo is to drill-kick into the opponent near the ground, then immediately rock morph and slam him to the other side of the stage.
If there's something worse than an absolute idiot, it is someone who makes blind and certain assumptions with minimal data, allowing for no leeway, and does not respect anyone he argues against enough to even give their arguments weight against untested area. Let alone when said area is perfectly real and can be easily tested for the presence of truth or reasonable doubt.
Btw, this is worth considering in any argument you enter. I always consider that I may be under such an illusion myself, as it usually allows me to take my opponents arguments in perspective.
http://en.wikipedia....g-Kruger_effect
#33
Posted 24 April 2008 - 10:22 AM
Ok sir, may I please have a photograph of you and your huge game collection? Failure to provide it WILL result in proving that all you speak of is bullshit. Please, do NOT answer anymore. Don't try to sound smart anymore, you're awful at it, just give me a picture, and I'll believe you.
PS: Im a Systems Engineer (that's like Computer Science mayor in the US; but I couldn't be sure) since the age of 21. The youngest graduate in my group was 19, so for all I know, you could be a 16 year old genius that graduated at 13. Not the first, not the last.
For all the rest: Yahtzee was DRUNK when he played the game, he doens't like fighting games AND he gives a hoot about the multiplayer option on most games, that's like EVERYTHING against the game (if you didn't like the review). Get over it, he just can't like everything.
#34
Posted 24 April 2008 - 10:39 AM
2. Even if i'm a 16 year old genius . . . i'm a 16 year old genius
3. Go to the trouble of a photograph for an internet argument? On an unrelated and disgressable topic?
You easily prove (or disprove) my arguments to yourself if you even tried. This argument isn't one of belief, for heck's sakes, you can go and test this shit. As a uni graduate, you should be familiar with formal logic, right? Proving or disproving whether I have so many games says nothing about the other areas of the argument. That should be obvious without training. When I put out claims that can be tested, against opinions and undefined arguments, that requires proof on your side, (to imply a different logical system is necessary than the one i suggest), not mine. My argument is a logical exposition beginning on points that even you agreed with, with very few leaps in the structure. (very few base assumptions, and many corollaries). And the proof, is readily available for testing.
If you care to mention quirks in the system that are available for testing that would render my methods unable, then do mention them, good sir.
#35
Posted 24 April 2008 - 10:52 AM
I was talking to goaticus for the second comment.
My point was that you're 16. Genius doesn't make you wiser.
Where's the photograph dude? Sound as "smart" as you want, unless you show me that picture of your 400+ games or accept it was a mere lie, your comments are as empty as Dracula's Soul.
Oh, and just saying "logic" as in any cartoon, doesn't give sense to your arguments. I will now NOT answer a single post from you until you post that photo, or accept you are simply making stuff up.
#37
Posted 24 April 2008 - 10:54 AM
edit: @el presidente: but . . . it's so much fun to piss of people who have the competence of yorkshire pudding!
This post has been edited by FFreak3: 24 April 2008 - 10:55 AM
#38
Posted 24 April 2008 - 11:03 AM
No? Well shut up then!
Well, it IS a forum and there are basically no opinions whatsoever. I thought this would be around 4 or 5 pages long with intricate details. People get bored.
#39
Posted 24 April 2008 - 12:45 PM
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The Queen's own English, base knave, dost thou speak it?
#40
Posted 24 April 2008 - 01:03 PM
I'm not even going to get into the entire rest of the nonsense in this thread except to say ugh.
#41
Posted 24 April 2008 - 01:48 PM
My EEE rodent ball isn't even finished yet and it died. Someone more competent at engineering will no doubt have one ready within the week, though.
@Slade:
Garfield without garfield's speech bubbles is hilarious. How long has that been your signature?
This post has been edited by FFreak3: 24 April 2008 - 01:49 PM
#45
Posted 24 April 2008 - 03:33 PM