6DAS Spoilers
#46
Posted 25 January 2007 - 05:31 PM
I think that Tall Man was somehow possessing John's father as the poor boy was killed with the idol. "Possessing" or whatever. If I recall the TN flashback in question right.
*Clears throat* And before anyone starts asking "Who the hell is this guy?" I'm going to take my leave. You can refer to me as Mr. Mystery because it sounds funky.
#47
Posted 25 January 2007 - 06:09 PM
Moreover, the puzzles were a lot more challenging in 6DaS, which, in my opinion, is a good thing.
I totally agree with David-kyo and with BLueskirt. The XDAYS games are the best in my opinion. I'm gonna stay over a month just trying to figure out the plot =]
#48
Posted 25 January 2007 - 06:22 PM
I thought it was nice to see who the man in red really was. I'd been trying to figure it out ever since I got the SE of Trilby's Notes, but all my ideas didn't seem to fit. I'm a big idiot for not thinking Malcom, huh? Also, 'Redrobey McSomerset' is totally hilarious and I'm calling him that forever.
I'll agree with the people who said it wasn't as scary. I think this was partially because you couldn't really die. The Trilby guard catches you and locks you up? Redrobey McSomerset save you with.... magic or something. Possessed Janine is about to kill you? You wake up in your bed like nothing happened. Maybe you were able to die in the house with your Trilby Army, but I always had someone with me so I'm not sure. (About the Trilby Army. Did anyone else see them walking around like they were confused all the time? They never quite followed me. I had one try to go back towards the door we had just entered, then he turned around and got caught on the table.)
The music was great. It was so cool to hear the themes from TN again.
The end still confuses me some. I got that Chzo was trying to replace Cabadath as the Prince... but why does he need a prince if he's not going to try to take over the world? Or does he want an avatar to terrorize the people in the Realm of Magic?
Another thing. What happened to the real, original Trilby? As it seems, (like you people have pointed out,) that the old Trilby was actually the last clone, so I'm guessing that wasn't him. Now presumably, he's dead, (It'd be an impressive power to not die after 200 years,) but I'm curious as to what else happened? Did the Tall Man come and kill him? Did he have a heart attack when a kid came to his house trick or treating in a welding mask?
Also, was I the only one who laughed when the Trilby clone was explaing how to change a fuse? I kept imagining him saying it mockingly, kinda like he was saying "Sure, I don't have any memory, but you don't know how to change a fuse?" I also laughed when I saw Lenkmann's corpse, though, so maybe I just think weird things are funny.
Lastly. Maybe I'm just selfish, but I was very glad when Yahtzee didn't release Trilby's real name. It probably would've fit in quite well though. I'm not sure why he didn't do it though. Perhaps he wants to keep people buying the SEs.
This post has been edited by arien: 25 January 2007 - 06:24 PM
#49
Posted 25 January 2007 - 06:31 PM
my theory for the new prince is that the tall man assumed his role as prince would involve bring Chzo to our dimension, but Chzo on the other hand, had no interest in this (due to lack of magick, etc), and while DeFoe's power grew, Chzo set the wheels in motion to bring him to his world (possibly due to him being more 'pure', suffering much more than the prince had in his life), using Theo as a body, and the others to purify him, so he and DeFoe could join together through the machete, mask and apron, and then through the complete destruction of the house, destroy DeFoe's mind body and soul, but it would remain within Theo
maybe Defoe was meant to be the 'true' prince all along, and the tall man was simply a means of obtaining him.
as for Trilby? we don't really know what happened to the original, and given Chzo's perception of time, the one at the end of the game could well have been him (somehow).
anyway, looking forward to the special edition (should there be one)
#50
Posted 25 January 2007 - 06:52 PM
It was great though, (and got me an opening to be a prick) so all should be forgiven and maybe even thanked for. Mostly thanked for.
#51
Posted 25 January 2007 - 06:59 PM
I'd look for the original Trilby through personality. As soon as the clone Trilbys started talking, you could instantly tell it's not the real one. He's much more irreverent and sarcastic. And logic would say that none of the clones are the original Trilby, but the remark about blanking by the 'last' Trilby is characteristic and does make me suspicious, however.
#52
Posted 25 January 2007 - 07:05 PM
#53
Posted 25 January 2007 - 07:28 PM
Moreover, the puzzles were a lot more challenging in 6DaS, which, in my opinion, is a good thing.
More challenging? Although I'm embarassed to admit it, this may be the only Yahtzee game (except for the original Rob Blanc) that I was able to finish without any help. The lack of scares did help me think more clearly, to be honest.
If you read the note found on the computer in the lab room, it implies that Trilby died of old age, but the Prince was able to take a blood sample from him before that.
I've heard of raising clones for the extra organs, but raising clones to give you their life energy? Wow.
#54
Posted 25 January 2007 - 07:31 PM
Now maybe I've thought too much about it already but I think the Tall Man had been doing Chzo's bidding and had no idea what it had in mind UNTIL Theo showed up and then it realized this whole thing, this whole time, was NOT to bring Chzo into this world but to replace him {the Tall Man} and THEN he started killing the Trilby's.
Either that or Chzo wanted to make Defoe's influence stronger so that he would infect Janine, causing her to make Theo worried (and cementing it by having the Tall Man kill her) AS WELL as making Theo go nuts with Defoe causing the lower levels to go through the transformation. Also killing the Trilby's in front of Theo would drive him crazy too. All this time the Tall Man had no idea what was going on UNTIL the last moment, because after the New Prince is born you see him look at Chzo and point at his replacement in a "WHAT IS THIS" manner.
As for WHY Chzo wanted a replacement, as some have pointed out; The Prince was born out of a being wanting to use Chzo for, when you really think about it, a selfless purpose and was tortured and given his great pain by Chzo. John DeFoe however was given his pain his whole life, he's known nothing BUT pain; making him the perfect canidate for a Prince.
Those are my toughts
#55
Posted 25 January 2007 - 08:02 PM
I also laughed when I saw Lenkmann's corpse, though, so maybe I just think weird things are funny.
Where was Lenkmann's corpse? I don't remember that!
#57
Posted 25 January 2007 - 08:20 PM
#58
Posted 25 January 2007 - 08:42 PM
It was the one in the supply room. Rememer, you lure the Trilby clone in, and the tall man appears and kills him? If you look at the corpse, it says something like "It was wearing the remains of an anorak, and had a large hole in the back of its head." Anyway, I got a big kick out of that, mostly because I never liked Lenkmann.
#60
Posted 25 January 2007 - 08:49 PM
Yes, it is him, although younger. Play Trilby's Notes, and pay attention to the first flashback, the one with Matthew Defoe. The kid looks exactly like John. But i don't know about his eyes. Maybe a mention to when he rips William eyes in the future?