Why is there so much hatred for the prequels here?
#1
Posted 23 March 2006 - 07:33 PM
As much as I dislike the prequels, why does virtually EVERYONE on this site hate the prequels so much? Is it the movies? George Lucas? Something else? It seems every other website I go to, the reception for the prequels is mixed (some like, some don't)- but HERE, everyone seems to hate the prequels. I am just wondering why there is a much more percentage of hatred to the prequels here than a lot of other places?
#3
Posted 23 March 2006 - 08:36 PM
QUOTE (Smashman @ Mar 23 2006, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As much as I dislike the prequels, why does virtually EVERYONE on this site hate the prequels so much? Is it the movies? George Lucas? Something else? It seems every other website I go to, the reception for the prequels is mixed (some like, some don't)- but HERE, everyone seems to hate the prequels. I am just wondering why there is a much more percentage of hatred to the prequels here than a lot of other places?
I don't hate the prequels. I like them. I also understand them, though, which is a big part of why I don't hate them. I consider George Lucas to be a genious, while most people on this forum would disagree. I think someone once said that geniouses are often misunderstood. I just think Lucas has acquired a greater grasp of subtlety, and a lot of people who liked the original trilogy don't know how to deal with that... therefore, since they don't understand what's going on, they hate it. I hated Memento until the end of the movie when I figured out how clever the film actually was.
#5
Posted 23 March 2006 - 08:58 PM
most people were pulled here by Chefs 'reason to hate' lists, which is the reason for the hate. Everyone else is too intimidated to stay (a guess).
I was personally sucked in by the gravity of Barends post count.
Although I disagree with a lot of whats said, this is the only SW discussion on the internet I take part in. Theres some smart kids here.
I was personally sucked in by the gravity of Barends post count.
Although I disagree with a lot of whats said, this is the only SW discussion on the internet I take part in. Theres some smart kids here.
#7
Posted 23 March 2006 - 09:26 PM
QUOTE (Jejef Thgaron @ Mar 23 2006, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't hate the prequels. I like them. I also understand them, though, which is a big part of why I don't hate them. I consider George Lucas to be a genious, while most people on this forum would disagree. I think someone once said that geniouses are often misunderstood. I just think Lucas has acquired a greater grasp of subtlety, and a lot of people who liked the original trilogy don't know how to deal with that... therefore, since they don't understand what's going on, they hate it. I hated Memento until the end of the movie when I figured out how clever the film actually was.
Dude, my box o’ kittens could make a better PT than George Lucas. Senility does not equal genius.
Your ability to justify GLs crappy decisions and plot holes reminds me of all those times I used to trip on acid and have revelations about how totally connected everything in existence is, and how sounds had colors and colors had textures.
Your logic is remarkably similar to the thought process of people who are tripping themselves insane - faces melting and all.
Yeah, George Lucas is a genius. And Satan once talked to me through Enya’s album, In Memory of Trees.
#9
Posted 24 March 2006 - 01:00 AM
"Why is there so much hatred for the prequels here?"
is the focus on 'why' or 'here'?
we should at some point make an effort to find some common ground so we can talk about a SW theme without arguing...
is the focus on 'why' or 'here'?
QUOTE (jariten @ Mar 23 2006, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
most people were pulled here by Chefs 'reason to hate' lists, which is the reason for the hate. Everyone else is too intimidated to stay (a guess).
I was personally sucked in by the gravity of Barends post count.
Although I disagree with a lot of whats said, this is the only SW discussion on the internet I take part in. Theres some smart kids here.
I was personally sucked in by the gravity of Barends post count.
Although I disagree with a lot of whats said, this is the only SW discussion on the internet I take part in. Theres some smart kids here.
we should at some point make an effort to find some common ground so we can talk about a SW theme without arguing...
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#10
Posted 24 March 2006 - 01:15 AM
It's actually the penguins doing. They've been conspiring against us all for hundreds of years now, by cleverly influencing the creation of what we call the OT now, which was so good that it almost hurt. Yet almost wasn't enough for those bloody penguins. So they ate some more fish and did their group-hugging thing for a little while - and then they helped creating the PT, which was so bad it really hurt, especially after nobody was able to recover from the pain of joy the OT once created...
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#12
Posted 24 March 2006 - 03:40 AM
Jejef: I understand subtlety, and I hate the one prequel episode that I watched. It's a pretty common trait that some folks have when disagreeing with other folks folks, to say that their opponents are not as smart as they are. You should strive not to be so common. I also watched MEMENTO and while I like it a lot, it has two huge flaws in it that ruin its art-house credibility. I won't go into them because this isn't the topic for it and they're pretty subtle.
Jariten: Thanks for the general compliment, which I'm sure was directed almost entirely to my awe-inspiring genius. Notes to Jejef: Jariten's clever tactic of complimenting his opponent while disagreeing, and the correct spelling of genius.
Sailor: Satan talks to everyone through Enya.
Jariten: Thanks for the general compliment, which I'm sure was directed almost entirely to my awe-inspiring genius. Notes to Jejef: Jariten's clever tactic of complimenting his opponent while disagreeing, and the correct spelling of genius.
Sailor: Satan talks to everyone through Enya.
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#13
Posted 24 March 2006 - 05:01 AM
Nope, not to me, owing to my total lack of esoteric qualities.
A commentaly on Special Edition of OT by Mark Hamill:
"It's got a princess, a smuggler, a wizard and a farm boy- what's there not to like?"
Perquels:
1. Where is the princess? (no, not elected 12-year old queen dressed in tents or senator turned kick-ass ninja turned pregnant ninny)
2. Where is the rougue charming smuggler bad guy with a heart?
3. Where is the wizard? (no, not fake Royal Academy of Dramatic Art accent boring boy with a ponytail/beard and a lizard. And not the guy who got written off from the script after the first hour of the show)
4. Where is the farm boy? (no, not the squeaky-clean yipee toddler turned whining adolescent turned total dumbass)
What's there to like????
A commentaly on Special Edition of OT by Mark Hamill:
"It's got a princess, a smuggler, a wizard and a farm boy- what's there not to like?"
Perquels:
1. Where is the princess? (no, not elected 12-year old queen dressed in tents or senator turned kick-ass ninja turned pregnant ninny)
2. Where is the rougue charming smuggler bad guy with a heart?
3. Where is the wizard? (no, not fake Royal Academy of Dramatic Art accent boring boy with a ponytail/beard and a lizard. And not the guy who got written off from the script after the first hour of the show)
4. Where is the farm boy? (no, not the squeaky-clean yipee toddler turned whining adolescent turned total dumbass)
What's there to like????
#14
Posted 24 March 2006 - 11:39 AM
QUOTE (Madam Corvax @ Mar 24 2006, 03:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope, not to me, owing to my total lack of esoteric qualities.
A commentaly on Special Edition of OT by Mark Hamill:
"It's got a princess, a smuggler, a wizard and a farm boy- what's there not to like?"
Perquels:
1. Where is the princess? (no, not elected 12-year old queen dressed in tents or senator turned kick-ass ninja turned pregnant ninny)
2. Where is the rougue charming smuggler bad guy with a heart?
3. Where is the wizard? (no, not fake Royal Academy of Dramatic Art accent boring boy with a ponytail/beard and a lizard. And not the guy who got written off from the script after the first hour of the show)
4. Where is the farm boy? (no, not the squeaky-clean yipee toddler turned whining adolescent turned total dumbass)
What's there to like????
A commentaly on Special Edition of OT by Mark Hamill:
"It's got a princess, a smuggler, a wizard and a farm boy- what's there not to like?"
Perquels:
1. Where is the princess? (no, not elected 12-year old queen dressed in tents or senator turned kick-ass ninja turned pregnant ninny)
2. Where is the rougue charming smuggler bad guy with a heart?
3. Where is the wizard? (no, not fake Royal Academy of Dramatic Art accent boring boy with a ponytail/beard and a lizard. And not the guy who got written off from the script after the first hour of the show)
4. Where is the farm boy? (no, not the squeaky-clean yipee toddler turned whining adolescent turned total dumbass)
What's there to like????
Absolutely nothing.
I am the Fisher King.
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an obi-wan to go.
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an obi-wan to go.