And all that damn CGI.
91 Reasons to Hate Episode III Revenge of the Sith Articles Have Begun!
#377
Posted 12 August 2005 - 12:29 PM
Well, you can make reasons to hate SW in general. Reasons to hate fanboys, horrible videogames, the fuckin' toys, etc. If you don't do them, I will.
#378
Posted 20 August 2005 - 02:20 PM
Its been mentioned about Palpatine/Siddious' voice problems after he throws Windu out the Window, but whats not mentioned is the fact that this only occors WHILE HES FACING THE CAMERA!!! It ammazes me that he can sound like the Emperor from ROTJ thru the whole PT while hes being Siddious, right up to this point. Then suddenly, he sounds like he had 37 shots of tequilla, but ONLY WHILE FACING THE CAMERA!! While were staring at the back of his head, the voice over sonds just like the Emperor again, as he does for the rest of the film. This ruined the scene and a great charictor.
Well, perhaps ruined is a bad word, the scence sucked anyway...
#380
Posted 20 August 2005 - 09:25 PM
Hey Chef, I just finished reading your nitpicks for Ep III and the Special Edition DVD. Even though I like Star Wars and immensely enjoyed Ep III, I laughed hard at some of your comments. Just think, if they come out with the TV series, then you'll have something else to do.
#381
Posted 21 August 2005 - 11:27 AM
To anyone who liked the movie - SHAME ON YOU! Its the worst film in the galaxy!
And there is a missing nitpick:
If they started building the first death star at the end of ROTS then it took over 20 years to build, yet the second death star took virtually no time at all. NEXT TIME THINK ABOUT THE CRAP YOU PUT IN YOUR FILMS GEORGE LUCAS.
#382
Posted 02 September 2005 - 06:08 PM
And there is a missing nitpick:
If they started building the first death star at the end of ROTS then it took over 20 years to build, yet the second death star took virtually no time at all. NEXT TIME THINK ABOUT THE CRAP YOU PUT IN YOUR FILMS GEORGE LUCAS.
Wrong! The second took 4 years because: they knew how to do it, they had more resources, they didn`t have to hide things from the Senate!
#383
Posted 02 September 2005 - 06:43 PM
It also wasn't powerful at the time the Rebels attacked to take out a planet like the first one. The thing was built twice as big because of the many small micro exhaust vents that discharged the exhaust when the weapon was discharged, and it was made to look uncompleted as part of its cammoflage and bait effect for the Rebellion, they HAD to destroy it then and there or they wou;dn't have had a chance later on. Palpatine, knowing this, due to his forseeing the end to an extent hatched a scheme to make the ting powerful enough to lure the Rebel fleet in and to blow its big ships apart one by one. The galactic struggle comes down to the father and son showdown and Palpatine wanted an edge by having the DS II destroy Rebel ships to anger Luke and have him switch to the Dark Side to save the remaining fleet or take the complete plunge by giving into his anger, pretty much satisfying what Palpatine wanted all along.
#385
Posted 25 September 2005 - 08:44 PM
War! What Is It Good For
The opening crawl for Revenge of the Sith stays true to the Star Wars style by being pretty dreadful. The first paragraph is as follows:
War! The Republic is crumbling under attacks by the ruthless Sith Lord, Count Dooku. There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere.
I won't bore you with the remaining two paragraphs as I feel that the first paragraph sets the tone nicely enough. There are heroes on both sides. Who exactly are the heroes on the other side? Count Dooku? Nute Gunray? Presumably the other side's hero was that battle droid that said "Roger, roger!"
Yeah, the droids are the heros.
You remember when you were a little kid and heard the power droid and medical droid scream while they got tortured in Jabba's palace. Well see the droids feel pain. You know when R2 and 3PO were all worried about Luke on Hoth. Well see droids feel love. You hear how the battle droids screamed when they fell out of the Invisible Hand. Well see droids feel fear. You remember watching The Matrix movies. Well it's the same thing in Star Wars and it was always there in the originals.
"Clones can think creatively. You will find them immensely superior to droids."--Lama Su
Well I think R2 would have a thing or two to say about that.
So if droids feel love, fear, pain and think creatively. Then are they not sentient beings?
#386
Posted 26 September 2005 - 12:30 AM
One of the most obvious questions that comes up regarding the prequels and how they relate to the original movies is Leia's memory of her mother. In Return of the Jedi, Leia tells Luke that she only remembers images of her mother, that she was "very beautiful, but sad." The major question is this: how does Leia remember her mother if she was only alive together with her mother for a total of one minute? The answer to this may be: "Well, Leia is talking about her adoptive mother, so there!" The answer to that is, of course, that Luke says, "Tell me about your mother, your real mother."
Another shoddy apologist answer would be: "Well, Leia was an exceptional baby and because of the Force she remembered her mother." This is an even worse explanation, seeing that Luke was there at the time and was actually born first. Being born even a mere twenty seconds earlier than Leia means that he spent a considerable percentage more of his life with his mother than Leia did.
At this point, we can only assume that Princess Leia is just really, really stupid and is actually referring to photographs of her mother that Bail Organa showed her while they cruised around in his Ford convertible.
I want you to notice how Episode III is the only episode that has dream or vision sequences. Kind of out of place for a Star Wars episode right. Well the dream and the vision sequence is to show you what Leia saw when she had visions and dreams of Padme. "Just images really. Feelings." Notice how Padme says, "there is good in him." Notice how when Luke tells Leia that he must confront Vader, Leia freaks out and tells him to just run, but when Luke says, "there is good in him," then Leia calms down because she has heard this before. She heard it in a dream or vision she had of Padme.
Something greater than the mortal characters is guiding them to their destinies.
These characters aren't having visions of the future because the characters are so powerful and can see the future when ever they want to. They're having visions because something is allowing the mortal characters to see these visions because these mortal characters are all part of a greater plan. What that something is? I don't really know and I don't think G.L. will ever tell us. But I suspect that Star Wars gods are guiding the characters to their destinies but you're never told that because only the primitive characters believe in gods, and most of the story is from the point of view of the Jedi. And the Force is just what Obi-Wan said it was, "an energy field created by all living things," and it has fallen into darkness because of the corruption of people.
#388
Posted 13 October 2005 - 01:19 AM
I don't know if you remember me, but some time ago I e-mailed you with some additional reasons to hate Ep. II. If I remember correctly, the first ones in
http://www.chefelf.c...rs/ep2_add1.php
I was thinking about doing the same thing about Ep. III, but since there is a forum now, I'll just put it here. I consider myself to be a very tolerant person, so if I'm writing this, then the following reasons really annoyed me:
1 - Two, Three, Four Lightsabers Against One
Something that has always bothered me in the prequel is fights involving two lightsabers against one. There are some japanese swordfighting styles that involve two swords, but the apparent advantage is balanced by having to handle two heavy swords with just one hand each. Plus, those styles usually involve shorter swords. So it's easy to realize that someone with one sword can beat someone with two with proper strategy.
With lightsabers, however, there is neither the problem of heaviness or the problem of range. And virtually nothing can defend a lightsaber strike except for another lightsaber. So it's very hard to believe that a person with just one lightsaber is able to defend all attacks from a person with two lightsabers or two persons with one lightsaber each. Unless, of course, the person with just one lightsaber is considerably more skilled or has an adequate weapon. That's why I tolerate the Darth Maul fight or the Count Dooku fight in Ep. III. Or Count Dooku against Anakin in Ep. II, since Anakin fights like a retard on that one.
The problem here is General Grievous. Not only the guy has four lightsabers, but he "has been trained in Jedi arts by Count Dooku". Now, Grievous might not be considered a experienced lightsaber fighter, or the brightest bulb in the box, but from one can see in Clone Wars, the guy can fight. So I'm quite unconfortable with the fact that Obi-Wan, who wasn't capable of hitting Dooku even with the aid of Anakin, is capable of defending himself from four lightsabers. Even more annoying is that fact that this happens because the so-called "trained in Jedi arts" cyborg apparently prefers to spin two sabers like a chainsaw instead of simply striking Obi-Wan with all four sabers at once, something that would finish the battle in a split second.
2 - Subtlety Unhooded
This is a short one. Am I the only one annoyed at yet another obvious lack of subtletly from dearest Lucas, which happens after Palpatine kills Windu? I'm talking about the very convenient revelation that a chancellor's outfit includes a hood. What the hell? I can imagine Georgie thinking "Well, okay... He just killed Mace Windu with lightning, exactly like he tries to do with Luke in the sixth film. He's also had his face scarred, making him look like in that film. Hmm... But perhaps people still won't realize he's the Emperor with just that... Something is missing..."
3 - Anti-Climatic Climax
This is actually something Scott McCloud said some time ago. It's very interesting that the climax of the movie is two simultaneous duels-to-the-death, yet you already know that all four of the fighters involved will survive and three of them unscathed.
4 - Attack Of The Furrowed Eyebrows
Now this just shows how bad of an actor Hayden is. First, he thinks "evil" means "angry". Second, he thinks "angry" means "having furrowed eyebrows". Both statements are wrong, and realizing how much he believes in them during the entire movie is simply annoying. His face after he goes to the dark side has nothing to do with the calm and cool Darth Vader in the original trilogy. It's more like Justin Timberlake finding out that his boyfriend cheated on him.
5 - Very Confusing The Dark Side Is
Apparently, going to the dark side did not cure the "I hate you! You're like a father to me!" sydrome of poor Anakin. First he kills several Jedis in order to have power to save Padmé. Then he tries to kill Padmé. And then he is angry at Obi-Wan because he tried to separate him from Padmé. And when he wakes up, the first thing he asks is if Padmé is okay. And finally, he decides to stay with the Emperor, yet the only reason he joined the Emperor in the first place is, literally, dead.
Perhaps that why Palpatine is smiling at Vader's back during the "Nooo..." scene: he's probably thinking: "Damn, this kid is stupid."
As a final comment, I wonder what Christopher Lee thinks about being, in two different trilogies, a major villain in the second part and completely irrelevant in the third.
This post has been edited by Keyper7: 13 October 2005 - 01:24 AM
#390
Posted 24 October 2005 - 12:33 AM
I found an error in your list of reasons to hate ROTS, while I was reading them over again today for fun:
Force Lightning & Scarring
So what exactly happened to the Emperor between the end of Episode III and Episode VI? When Palpatine gets blasted with his own Force lightning, his face changes color and takes on a new form. Previously we have seen Luke get blasted to hell by Force lightning and suffer no real effects (other than what we read about him having muscle problems in an Expanded Universe novel). Obi-Wan also gets blasted a few times and seems to walk away with no damage unless this is where the gray streak in his hair came from.
(emphasis mine)
When did this happen? Are you referring to something in the Expanded Universe, because I don't recall ANY instances of Obi-Wan getting "blasted" by Force Lightning in any of the 6 movies. The only time he's anywhere near some lightning is when Dooku fires some at him, which all gets "absorbed" by his lightsaber blade. And where is this "gray straeak in his hair"? The people who were blasted by Lighting (not counting the times that Yoda "absorbed" bolts into his hands, or Dooku "blocked" a bolt Yoda threw at him with his hand) in the movies thus far are:
Anakin (by Dooku, in AOTC)
Yoda (by Palpatine, in ROTS)
Mace Windu (by Palpatine, in ROTS)
Luke (by Palpatine, in ROTJ)
and of course:
Palpatine (by his own lightning bounced off Windu's saber, in ROTS).
The last example is the only one wherein it causes somebody's face to "melt" which I think was your point. But the bolded portion of the quote above is simply confusing... I have no idea where that info comes from! (but if it's some obscure EU reference you should make that clear)
Also, a minor typo, bolded here:
Padme's Laissez-Faire Attitude
After Anakin's second dream (or premonition) about Padme dying during childbirth, he decides to tell her again. Overall, she seems completely unworried about this idea that Anakin has. He even tells her that it's the same as when he had a vision of his mother dying, which she eventually did. Again, I must reiterate that I would be pretty freaked out if my girlfriend announced that she had a vision of me dying, and she's not even a Jedi (as far as I know), let alone if she had a previous grim vision of death that was realized.
Anakin comes off as some sort of really annoying Nostradamus who is stuck on this one prophecy. Anakin keeps harping on her death incessantly: "Wow Padme, I mean, I only dreamt of my mother dying once. And that was kinda foggy and I wasn't sure what to make of it. This time it's just coming in crystal clear. You died and I could hear your screams and you were wearing that same dress that you're wearing now. Huh. That's weird. I wonder what could be happening that could make you scream like that. It's like you were being crushed to death or someone was breaking your knees with a hammer. Oh well, you know what they say... always in motion is the future."
I commend Padme for her calmness in the face of death. She even goes as far as to promise Anakin that she won't die in the face of death. Excellent. Padme is a woman of her word ,so there should really be nothing to worry about. She wouldn't like to Anakin. Would she?
I think you mean "lie" not "like."