Finally, the thing about how there are women who "can't distinguish what they need from what they think they need"-- that's true of HUMANITY, dude. TONS and TONS of men have no fucking clue what they really need.
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Yes, I agree there are tons of men who haven't a clue what they need. I wasn't comparing women and men. The survey was about women. I was comparing "career driven woman with no outside interests" with women not as career driven. not with men. And yeah ... the survey didn't mention careers, but I was throwing in my own perspective on it. I mean, this isn't shit I read in Cosmo or anything. I was talking about people I know.
But to give your point the once-over, I don't know ANY career-driven men who insist only on dating women who make more money than they do and who can lay out in twenty-five words or less where they want to be in five years. So, no, not "equally" aplicable, I wouldn't say, but sure: it's applicable. I think this is what I was getting at, and what study might have found: there is a good percentage of brainy women who have been sold this dumbass bill of goods that they need to fixate on careers and try desperately to be Donald Trump or they are losers. And these gals are all constantly complaining there are no good men to date. And yeah, the Don Trumps of the world don't know what they want either: they have no female friends, and a succession of trophy brides. It's sick; I can't imagine enjoying sex with a total stranger.
I only date intelligent women with common interests. I feel uncomfortable if I can't get through a conversation without having to constantly watch what I say or frequently explain myself. This should be true of women, too, I agree.
I don't know whether the study shows what some of us think it shows. From some of the other comments here, particularly yours and Jen's, I think I may have missed the point of it. However I am always intrigued by this sort of discussion, and I freely admit that comparisons of class and class, gender and gender, race and race, are more or less guaranteed to make an asshole out of me.
Peace.
This post has been edited by civilian_number_two: 13 January 2005 - 09:14 PM