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But wait; in a perfect world, suppression of religion is to be extolled, right?
Maybe I'm alone here, but between being told I couldnt pray and being tortured relentlessly for six years and then murdered, I think I'd take the former. Feel free to tell me what relation religious suppression has to this topic if you like.
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Giving them a free trip to a media circus where they will be the sympathetic stars isn't in our country's interest.
Oh yes. Its much better to keep everything hidden. That way the rest of the world will think we have something to hide like, I dunno, using evidence obtained by torture, keeping detainees from basic rights of habeaus corpus necessary to their defense, preventing them from speaking in their defense and trying them before horrificly biased panels? (our own supreme court justice Scumbag Scalia was in London today jabbering about how it was ok to stick things under other peoples finger nails to make them talk. And if he's that bad I dont know what the military judges appointed by these ass clowns will be like)
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Quietly restraining terrorism however, is.
Making people scream in agony does not fit my definition of quiet. Ah, but you meant more on a political scale than in a literal way. Let me tell you something about your "quiet restraint". I'm guessing that Bush believes that once again showing his willingness to do murder will frighten his enemies. As one of Bush's enemies I can tell you that it hardens my resolve. The threat of death and burial in some unmarked grave is no deterrent to those who love freedom. Indeed it holds a certain promise. Many of the best leaders of the twentieth century were laid in unarked graves by the US government, and my only fear is that I would not be worthy of their company.
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Given the name of this thread, I can see profound bias for dumping on dubya
As soon as another American president tortures and kills people let me know and democrat or republican I'll be all over their ass. But wait, you can't find one. Because no one has ordered tortured before Dubya. Not against Nazi war criminals. Not against anarchist "terrorists", not against evil slave drivers, and not even when the British invaded the US and burned the white house to the ground.
Think about that. The white house was burning behind him while Madison fled with his family and what belongings could be saved, not far ahead of the British persuit, and someone asked him what was to be done with prisoners from the same army who burned down his home and were on the verge of reoccupying his nation. And even then he didnt do what Bush does now.
Could that have been prevented if we'd waterboarded a few captive British soldiers or drove nails under their fingertips to find out about their plans? It was, after all, actionable intelligence about an imminent threat to our nation. But you know, I'm happier living in a nation whose capital got burned once than I would be living in a nation with a record of torture and brutality. Or at least I was happier while I could still put the US in the former category.
This post has been edited by J m HofMarN: 14 February 2008 - 12:46 AM