Prequel Ships have no "meat."
#1
Posted 24 June 2004 - 09:43 PM
OT ships were big and awesome and like a muscle car from the '50's.
Maybe it's just how they're shot. I mean, the X-wings seemed real, and large, and... whole, complete... material! Even the Tie-fighters seem bigger than any of the single-fighter crafts. Does this make sense?
#2
Posted 24 June 2004 - 10:17 PM
TIE FIGHTER- BEST design by far! Totally off the wall concept of a ball with flat panels.
The Nabooean Fighters were bland and frightfully 50's. You know how if you hang really warm taffy on a stick, it droops down slowly leaving behind a wisspy tail. That is the first thing that came to my mine when I saw these ships.
#3
Posted 24 June 2004 - 10:45 PM
#5
Posted 25 June 2004 - 08:36 AM
Exactly. I've been watching the untouched Ep. 4 these last nights and It's been great seeing Mos Eisley without all that BS CGI. And when the falcon left the space port, I didn't miss the whizbang cgi of the ship's ascent.
But when the falcon pulls into the DS, it IS some actual object the viewer wants to reach out and touch. With this as the standard, the SE falcon looks fake.
but it's that fake look that now ties the trilogies together I'm sorry to say, and little else.
#6
Posted 25 June 2004 - 09:09 AM
#7
Posted 25 June 2004 - 01:08 PM
No originality.
The ships for the PT should obviously be less far advanced than the ones in the OT. Every vehicle made for the PT seems like it was made for episodes occuring after the OT.
Please God, don't let GL make anything else Star Wars related.
#8
Posted 25 June 2004 - 04:30 PM
Why even touch them up in the first place?
The problem is, JYAMG, the animators. Lucas even described them as "young and overly eager to steal the show". Lucas could have wipped them more too, but he didn't. You got these over zealous young animators working on a legendary saga. These minons of Lucas (save the head overseer) are all working on month by month contracts. One guy is signed to finsh Yoda in 5 months, another guy is signed up to make banatha poodoo for 2 weeks etc....
Their time is limited so they want to leave their mark. The clone war was the biggest CG animator fuck fest since, well, ever! I'm sure if you watched that entire scene in slow motion, you'd catch at least 6 signatures and tags of the artists who worked on it.
Same goes with the touch up jobs in the OT. They over did it by about a factor of 10. That whole jabba scene was an outrage.
#9
Posted 25 June 2004 - 10:11 PM
There is absolutely no reason why they should do this and probably a few good reasons why they shouldn't - for example, we loved the movies as they were and we much prefer Han shooting first.
As for the animators, there's probably a lot in that. If its the case, then whoever was supervising it should be shot.
#10
Posted 26 June 2004 - 09:52 AM
#12
Posted 26 June 2004 - 11:59 AM
Commoner:
Is this from an official source or is it just forum gossip? Can you post a link to where you heard this?
#13
Posted 26 June 2004 - 06:14 PM
I saw something I'd forgotten during my recent untouched sw viewing.
In the garbage room, there's an eyeball on a stem that pops up, and some comical music. it was a fun moment. Tarkin and a princess and all this stuff going on, it really was a space opera. and kinda hokey at times. (Luke remembering 3po can save them in the garbage room- he's on the comlink- "Wait a minute! (a "duh" moment) Threepio!") it was fun.
Empire came out, and the advertising of the "saga" began. it was pretty serious overall. So maybe Lucas wanted to instill a little "classic" sw zaniness into Jedi? just a thought.
Hardliners hated Jedi's cutesy moments. And let Lucas know. So maybe now he's so gunshy about zany moments, everything has to be puffed up and serious all the time. ("Shut down all the garbage mashers in the detention level!" do you think they'd use a throwaway term like "mashers" these days?) Anikan brooding, ugh. I'm sick of it.
just a thought. JarJar kinda ruins my theory but I'm trying to understand.
"George doesn't tell us what he wants, we design the stuff and he tells us what he likes" or words to that effect- SW designers.
it's all bullshit. Don't rely on computers, Lucas. Use the force. that's what you sold us on from the beginning.
#14
Posted 26 June 2004 - 10:03 PM
if anything, they make the prequels look like like they're set 1000 years after the OT.
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#15
Posted 26 June 2004 - 11:21 PM
The major difference for me was that the stuff in Star Wars was actually funny.*
* No debates on this will be entered into.
if anything, they make the prequels look like like they're set 1000 years after the OT.
Hell, yes! Thank you, Barend.