Heccubus Presents: Primers An Educational Thread
#34
Posted 13 August 2007 - 04:51 PM
I feel sorry for them. they picked up a girl to increase their audience, and when she caught on to the fact she ditched them for solo career. Ditto Fergie from black eyed peas. Which makes shirley manson alll the more loveable for sticking with her band of old producers... and her supercuteness.
the Offspring were a pop band.
punk is raw version of rock, unrefined and unpolished for teeny boppers and it's not defined by the number of chords used. That line got blured in the 90s by the californian op-punk movement. I'm an old man who likes old school.
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#35
Posted 13 August 2007 - 05:03 PM
Plus they've got a new album out this year or next.
Fergie's a different story though. Although I've got a feeling she's working with the Black Eyed Peas again.
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#39
Posted 13 August 2007 - 06:45 PM
Plus they've got a new album out this year or next.
They were called something else, I can't remember what, and realesed and album (with busy artwork), before recruiting her and calling themselves 'no doubt'
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#40
Posted 13 August 2007 - 06:52 PM
It's just that I pride myself on my knowledge of no doubt.
I've done research on the two other guys who were in No Doubt in '86, and I can't find any record of either of them releasing any albums under any other name at all. Plus those two guys left pretty much before No Doubt recorded an album, so arguably Gwen Stefani IS No Doubt.
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#42
Posted 13 August 2007 - 10:41 PM
So were the Ramones, the Clash, the Buzzcocks, Blondie, Talking Heads, Television, The Slits, Generation X, The Jam, Elvis Costello and others from the earliest days of the entire punk movement. The Clash started out with a bit less of a pop influence, but that sound definitely became a part of their music later on (and ultimately made some of the best records of the last 35 years).
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#44
Posted 14 August 2007 - 09:51 AM
...to the wikipediamobile, batman!!!
(I just think it's tricky that some really drastically different music can fall under the same genre.)
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#45
Posted 14 August 2007 - 07:50 PM
It's just that I pride myself on my knowledge of no doubt.
I've done research on the two other guys who were in No Doubt in '86, and I can't find any record of either of them releasing any albums under any other name at all. Plus those two guys left pretty much before No Doubt recorded an album, so arguably Gwen Stefani IS No Doubt.
Hmmm... I did a little looking around but couldn't find anything, and I'm not willing to persue the matter further as it doesn't really scratch and itch I have... Their orignal singer was a guy named John Spence so maybe it was under the same name or a side project or something I don't know. All I know is I went into a record store and asked what was playing and the guy behind the desk pulled out a CD with mad magazinesque cover and said "this is the guys from no doubt before they had the chick singing"
I didn't follow up on it.
They were all dirty sounding pop bands who didn't just write 'love' songs. (also Pixies would have been nice to mention), Back then it wasn't an insult to be called pop as 'pop music' was just bands that got big, not hand selected by Pepsi and corrupted by Sauron to hypnotise children into being chicken shit conformists who question nothing, as it is today.
Sex Pistols, Exploited, Big Black, Dead Kennedy's, the Stooges, etc. did more than to deserve a grouping with the Offspring and Avril Levigne.
But look, seriously... I think of genres as nothing more than system to keep one's record store neat and organised (or at least as much as possible without offending too many music nerds).
If I had a store it would have three signs. 'commercial' over the better pop, 'contains soul' over the good shit, and 'top 40' over th exit.
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