Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows **SPOILERS** Post Release Discussion **SPOILERS**
#92
Posted 06 August 2007 - 08:17 AM
QUOTE (Bond @ Aug 5 2007, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, there were signs of it in CoS and OotP, but the former was just Voldie's Horcrux acting up and the latter was just a bout of possession.
actually, that makes me think of something else. if the scar was a horcrux, then shouldn't Harry have become completely and utterly posessed? it explains the bit of grouchiness in Book 5, but seriously, that scar's been stuck to him for nineteen years. Ron just has to carry around a locket for a few days before he starts getting the grouchy symptoms, and Ginny just had to use the diary for a few weeks or months before getting posessed to the point of blackouts. Harry's scar was literally attached to him, and in Book 7 you see he definitely starts getting attached to it - he begins to depend upon it to know what Lord Voldy's up to. shouldn't this combination of factors have made him totally vulnerable?
QUOTE (jariten @ Aug 6 2007, 02:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
but if the AK curse could also destroy a Horcrux, Dumbledore should have told Harry to learn that, instead of pissing about in a tent looking for a sword that could've just been pulled out of the sorting hat anyway.
maybe using AK could only destroy a horcrux if it was made out of something alive? *shrugs*
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#95
Posted 09 August 2007 - 01:04 PM
Dude, what is your problem?
Voldemort was an idiot. It's been stressed many times before in the series that he does not bother to understand certain kinds of magic; hence, he loses.
Voldemort was an idiot. It's been stressed many times before in the series that he does not bother to understand certain kinds of magic; hence, he loses.
#96
Posted 09 August 2007 - 05:42 PM
A lot of the wand rules don't make any sense. Why would Voldemort's initial AK knock Harry unconscious, and then the last one rebound and kill him? There isn't any consistency. One might argue that the first AK was initially just going to kill the horcrux, but HOW could the wand possibly know the horcrux existed inside Harry? There is no way it could!
Expellaramus isn't a reflecting spell by the way.
Rowling was probably thinking "I've become a billionaire off these books, I've been writing this one for years, so I think I'll just take a dump on the fans by making an ending which makes absolutely no sense. But it doesn't matter if the ending makes no sense as long as Harry lives...because really, that's all the fans want."
I also find it highly unlikely that Molly Weasley could kill Bellatrix Lestrange. We're talking about Bellatrix, the person who killed Sirius Black. And shouldn't Mrs.Weasley go to Azkaban for using a killing curse? It's unforgivable after all.
Oh, and Harry used the Imperius and Crucio curse, so he should go to Azkaban too.
Expellaramus isn't a reflecting spell by the way.
Rowling was probably thinking "I've become a billionaire off these books, I've been writing this one for years, so I think I'll just take a dump on the fans by making an ending which makes absolutely no sense. But it doesn't matter if the ending makes no sense as long as Harry lives...because really, that's all the fans want."
I also find it highly unlikely that Molly Weasley could kill Bellatrix Lestrange. We're talking about Bellatrix, the person who killed Sirius Black. And shouldn't Mrs.Weasley go to Azkaban for using a killing curse? It's unforgivable after all.
Oh, and Harry used the Imperius and Crucio curse, so he should go to Azkaban too.
This post has been edited by Storm: 09 August 2007 - 05:45 PM
#98
Posted 09 August 2007 - 08:27 PM
Bond..... meet Storm
Storm, meet Bond
Now thats out of the way.....
B, your still a little new but
what you feel right now
im told is natural
Storm, meet Bond
Now thats out of the way.....
B, your still a little new but
what you feel right now
im told is natural
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#99
Posted 09 August 2007 - 08:29 PM
Bond, like I have said before, there is a fine line between being cynical and just being realistic. I'm not complaining just for the sake of complaining. I am simply trying to make sense of the book. I have a problem, for instance, with Mrs.Weasley using the word "Bitch" while she is fighting. I didn't think her killing Bellatrix did any justice. Bellatrix tormented Neville's parents into insanity. He should have been the one to kill her.
The point of this forum is to discuss, and I'm asking what I believe to be good questions because I want to hear people attempt to justify certain points.
I feel like a lot of people are responding to this book like I was with Star Wars Episode 3. When I initially saw it, I loved it. In fact, I saw it seven times in the theatre that summer. After viewing it seven times, I finally began to acknowledge that the movie was quite silly. I think I just desperately wanted this movie to be so good that I found reasons to convince myself it was better than it actually was. That's how I feel people are responding to the latest Harry Potter book.
The point of this forum is to discuss, and I'm asking what I believe to be good questions because I want to hear people attempt to justify certain points.
I feel like a lot of people are responding to this book like I was with Star Wars Episode 3. When I initially saw it, I loved it. In fact, I saw it seven times in the theatre that summer. After viewing it seven times, I finally began to acknowledge that the movie was quite silly. I think I just desperately wanted this movie to be so good that I found reasons to convince myself it was better than it actually was. That's how I feel people are responding to the latest Harry Potter book.
#101
Posted 09 August 2007 - 11:36 PM
I havn't actually seen REVENGE OF THE SITH, but I'm ure the latest Harry Potter book is better. The two shoudn't really be compared, except in the sense that we should all make fun of Ms Rowlng for pretending that she'd outlined all 7 books before starting the first one. That's so obviously bullshit it doesn't even need to be ridiculed. After that pretentious faux pas, however, she's easily Lucas's superior.
"I had a lot of different ideas. At one point, Luke, Leia and Ben were all going to be little people, and we did screen tests to see if we could do that." -George Lucas, in STAR WARS: the Annotated Screenplays (p197).
#102
Posted 09 August 2007 - 11:46 PM
Actually, she did outline them. She even talks about which character got a reprieve (Mr. Weasley in OotP) and why no Squib would do magic later in life (it was cut from PoA). Unlike Lucas, Rowling does tell the truth.
#103
Posted 10 August 2007 - 12:25 AM
I might be inclined to believe that she outlined them or planned them in advance, except for the whole thing where she had Snape giving Harry those lessons on silently casting spells, and then completely dropped the issue in TDH. Why do you think that is? Hmmm?
#105
Posted 10 August 2007 - 12:43 AM
I just had another thought regarding the Elder Wand.
1. Draco disarms Dumbledore and becomes the owner of the Elder Wand.
2. Harry disarms Draco and becomes owner of the Elder Wand.
3. In the forest, Voldemort casts Avada Kedavra which knocks Harry unconscious. Technically, this would make Voldemort the owner of the Elder Wand.
Could you imagine the scene later in Hogwarts when Harry is trash talking Voldemort and saying how much smarter he is?
"Expellaramus"
"Avada Kedavra"
Voldemort's beam of green light easily overpowered the beam of red light from Harry's wand and hit Harry square in the chest. Harry then flew back and hit a spike which was sticking out of the wall.
"Looks like I am the true master of the Elder Wand....bitch"
1. Draco disarms Dumbledore and becomes the owner of the Elder Wand.
2. Harry disarms Draco and becomes owner of the Elder Wand.
3. In the forest, Voldemort casts Avada Kedavra which knocks Harry unconscious. Technically, this would make Voldemort the owner of the Elder Wand.
Could you imagine the scene later in Hogwarts when Harry is trash talking Voldemort and saying how much smarter he is?
"Expellaramus"
"Avada Kedavra"
Voldemort's beam of green light easily overpowered the beam of red light from Harry's wand and hit Harry square in the chest. Harry then flew back and hit a spike which was sticking out of the wall.
"Looks like I am the true master of the Elder Wand....bitch"