If Dooku Supposedly Is A Sith Then Why Doesn't He Have the Sith Eyes?
#61
Posted 13 March 2006 - 10:50 AM
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#62
Posted 13 March 2006 - 10:59 AM
Indeed. It looks like a good post... it reads like a good post... this can be 'imitated', however... just like Sith Lords can be imitated.
#63
Posted 13 March 2006 - 11:26 AM
Go ahead, fire it up. I'll never join you.
#64
Posted 13 March 2006 - 11:57 AM
Thank god. You'd probably complain through the whole movie, anyways.
#66
Posted 13 March 2006 - 03:36 PM
Hey, you have your fun your way, we'll have our fun ours!
#67
Posted 13 March 2006 - 04:04 PM
"I wish he were... still alive. I could use his help right now."
"Qui-Gon Jinn would never join you."
"Don't be so sure my young Jedi. For as you know Qui-Gon Jinn was once my apprentice just as you were once his. He knew all about the corruption in the senate but he would never have gone along with it if he learned the truth as I have."
"The truth?"
"What if I told you that the sentate is now under the influence of the Dark Lord of the Sith."
"That's not possible the Jedi would be aware of it."
"The Dark Side of the force has clouded their vision my friend. Hundreds of senators are now under the influence of a Sith Lord called Darth Sidious. The Viceroy of the Trade Federation was once in league with this dark lord. But he was betrayed, 10 years ago by the Dark Lord. He came to me for help he told me everything. Join me Obi-Wan.... and together we will destroy the Sith!"
"I will never join you."
It is interesting the part Count Dooku plays. He plays a patriot and an enlightened Jedi. Whether his real intention was to some day destroy the sith we will never know. I would argue it was. Count Dooku was on his own path. He thought he could use Palpatine as a tool of his own to gain HIS power.
Dooku wanted reform, Palpatine promised it... in a way. Dooku was a Jedi at heart he was never a real Sith. He was a rebel and a patriot. He was not consumed by evil. He always is at peace and calm, never angered. He wasn't a Sith. Hate and anger can be used by anyone; Jedi, or Sith, or neither. He used his hate but perhaps it was directed at something else? Corruption or maybe even the Sith themselves. One can use the force and not be a Jedi or Sith.
It is interesting of all the Sith, Dooku's eyes never become yellow. He is never consumed by the Dark Side. He is neither Jedi or Sith. He is on the middle path. Balance of the Force, perhaps that is what it is. A middle road inbetween the code of the Jedi and the rage and anger of the Sith. Dooku's middle road tilts more to the Sith, but that is for the time being.
As we all know, he was once a Jedi. He trained Qui-Gon no less. The one who would discover the living force. Is it possible Dooku followed a similar path? We will never know. In the end he was just a pawn in a larger scheme of the Sith Lord- Darth Sidious.
#68
Posted 13 March 2006 - 08:34 PM
he makes a fair proposal... his story is not completely unbeleivable, obiwan isn't completley without reason to trust him, he could always change his mind later, and at least he'd be out of his bonds....
it just shits me...
obiwan wasn't that wise... he trusted anikan for fucks sake!
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#69
Posted 14 March 2006 - 10:01 AM
he makes a fair proposal... his story is not completely unbeleivable, obiwan isn't completley without reason to trust him, he could always change his mind later, and at least he'd be out of his bonds....
it just shits me...
obiwan wasn't that wise... he trusted anikan for fucks sake!
Obi-Wan is naive. Qui-Gon may have joined Dooku because of the Republic's corruption, but Obi-Wan's been raised under the overprotective Jedi religion blanket his whole life, so he only believes what the Council members tell him. Obi-Wan serves the Republic loyally (read: blindly) and it would take more than one rogue Jedi to make him change his stance. And how true that statement is about trusting Anakin! If only he would have seen it coming...
"The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun, the clone war has."
#71
Posted 14 March 2006 - 06:49 PM
Heh?! Throwaway?!?! It's an important scene, probably one of the most important scenes of the entire movie! Are you saying that since you view this scene as throwaway, it's not important enough to answer the question of why Dooku's eyes aren't yellow, like the Siths'? Isn't that why this was question was posted in the first place?
Anyways... wasn't Poggle the name of the Geonosian Separatist leader?
#72
Posted 14 March 2006 - 08:04 PM
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#73
Posted 14 March 2006 - 10:34 PM
Whatever. The scene looked good in the previews, everything did. All three previews were about ten minutes, cummulative. And all the material GL had for the PT was about ten minutes worth.
Did GL even USE yellow eyes before Ep3? Or maybe a hacking cough makes you a Sith Lord.
Gotta hand it to you, Jejef. You know your shit.
#74
Posted 14 March 2006 - 11:37 PM
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#75
Posted 15 March 2006 - 11:13 AM
Did GL even USE yellow eyes before Ep3? Or maybe a hacking cough makes you a Sith Lord.
Gotta hand it to you, Jejef. You know your shit.
I think this scene was important for the sake of showing that Dooku wasn't a Sith Lord and that he was going down his own path as the Separatist leader, in order to give Palpatine a little more time to get the Clone Wars rolling. It's a clever diversion to lead the Jedi away from Coruscant, even if it's just one, or two Jedi at a time.
Yes, GL did use the yellow eyes on all of the Sith. Darth Maul had yellow-ish eyes (he was a Zabrak, so I'm sure his eyes were a bit different than a human Sith). Emperor Palpatine had yellow eyes in the OT, but it's hard to tell until the last part of ROTJ. Grievous sort of had yellow eyes, but I think it's only because of his Kaleesh heritage.
I don't know it all, but I've read a lot of the novels. I've never played KOTOR, but I've read about Poggle The Lesser, San Hill, Wat Tambor, Nute Gunray, Rune Haako... pretty much all of the individual Sep leaders from the I.B.C., the Commerce Guild, Techno Union, Trade Federation, etc. I recommend Labyrinth Of Evil... pretty good read.