Hamas Should Israel support their own destruction?
#16
Posted 20 February 2006 - 03:58 PM
Incindeary, inflammatory language, way to go. Nice avatar but if Lennon had said what you did (And I can't prove he didn't...) I'd lose respect for him too.
#17
Posted 20 February 2006 - 03:58 PM
It's the degree of accuracy that is important. I'm sure a few Jews were totally vaporized and never made it to the charts. I'm sure some guy counted one corpse as two. Blah blah blah.
A point that was rehashed several times, in the now dead thread, was use of references. So I used two strong sources, who happened to rely on sources themselves which happened to use statistics.
What do I get?
"statisitcs are always wrong, you can't trust them OR Those statistics have a good possibilty of being wrong".
In the end, it's hopeless. I regret starting this thread, you might aswell lock it since it's already been derailed to a boring debate.
But don't ask me for references ever again.
This post has been edited by Jordan: 20 February 2006 - 03:59 PM
#18
Posted 20 February 2006 - 04:30 PM
#19
Posted 20 February 2006 - 05:42 PM
Edit: For the record, that stuff I said at the beginning was because I don't want this to become another War in Iran thread, not directly related to anything that was said yet. And Jordan, I misread your main ideas at first. My apologies.
This post has been edited by Slade: 20 February 2006 - 05:51 PM
#20
Posted 20 February 2006 - 05:56 PM
Here you go, some evidence:
#21
Posted 20 February 2006 - 06:39 PM
While I think Lecter was complaining because that number was an estimate and not exact, it's still stupidly pedantic to bring up, and rather insensitive, given the genocide caused.
Spoon, please try not to post too much of that stuff. I get enough revulsion at the human race without help...
#23
Posted 20 February 2006 - 06:54 PM
*knows entirely too much about the Holocaust*
*sigh*
This post has been edited by Spoon Poetic: 20 February 2006 - 06:56 PM
#25
Posted 20 February 2006 - 08:01 PM
You don't want to know what kind of experiments were done. I'm not getting into it - search the web.
#26
Posted 20 February 2006 - 08:06 PM
Well as I am interested I will look around for the types of experiments used.
This post has been edited by Deepsycher: 20 February 2006 - 08:14 PM
#29
Posted 20 February 2006 - 09:39 PM
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#30
Posted 20 February 2006 - 10:16 PM
Seriously, get over it. There's plenty of holocaust going on right now against the Palestinians and you lot are busy fawning over something that happened before we were born. Genocide is happening today. A million Palestinians fled their homeland because of the literal invasion of people who had no business being there except that some bullshit storybook says their ancestors lived there a few thousand years ago.
Hamas is right to call for the destruction of the Zionist Entity. And the money that the Zionists are witholding is collected illegally from Palestinians. They are taxing the people of Palestine and stealing that money as an attempt to deny the people of Palestine their free choice of government.
And no Jordan, regrettably Hamas is unable to use that money for the destruction of the Zionist Entity. That money is intended to do what Hamas has been doing for years- provide education and medical care to Palestinians. It would take billions for Hamas to be able to take on the Zionists militarily. People didn't elect Hamas to destroy the Zionists, they know that's currently impossible. They elected them because they have a clear record of helping people and not being corrupt. You can say what you like about their tactics, but they are fanatics. You can't accuse someone who would blow themselves up to kill Zionists of being in it for themselves.
The former PA, for all its achievements, had grown corrupt. Arafat was all that held it together and when he died there was noone to take his place. I think Marwan Barghouti would have done a spectacular job but sadly the Zionists captured him. If he had been allowed his freedom he might have kept Fatah in control, but instead the Zionists must deal with Hamas. It's their own fault in so many more ways than just that.
The Palestinians keep fighting because they are right to do so. How can one negotiate with murderes and torturers and kidnappers and the killers of countless Palestinian children? How do you negotiate for YOUR land with the people who stole it from you? It is madness to ask such a thing of the brave people of Palestine. The Zionists in the Israeli government will not let the refugees they comitted genocide against go back to their homes. They tax people they have no right to rule. Every day they launch terrorist missile strikes against freedom fighters and civilians alike.
The more I hear, the more I read, the more certain I become that the only just solution is this-- Death to Israel!
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