[KurganX]

Going by Leia's holographic message to Obi-Wan given to him in Episode IV: A New Hope... is this another continuity flaw or plot hole?

I don't recall anything in the prequels that could be construed as Kenobi "serving" Bail Organa. They had a copule of short conversations at the end of the film (near the end of the war) but Organa was a Senator, and I don't recall that Obi-Wan even ever set foot on Alderaan.

About the only thing I can think of is that he "served" Organa in the generic sense of the Jedi Council "serving" the will of the Senate and the Republic, despite having some kind of autonomy (they also apparently serve the Chancellor, according to Episode I). By by that logic he "served" every single one of those thousands (?) of senators we see just as well. Was Kenobi ever a part of the Rebellion? I haven't watched the deleted scenes, but somehow I doubt he's in the ones where they talk about forming a rebellion. Apparently after Episode III he just dropped of Luke and went into exile there on Tatooine... and stayed there until the next episode.. right?

Or is Leia trying to butter him up by being overly flowery in her speech?

Anyway, I'm just curious if anybody else noticed this...

[Zatoichi]

Yes I have, but I have just about chosen to completely sever both trilogies of films and forgot to bring it up.

It was never made to look like Kenobi really "served" in any way, shape, or form Bail at all. It is just another facet to add to the pile.

[KurganX]

Well I figure I'd run it by the nitpickers just to make sure I didn't miss something. Whenever I bring something like this up on other fan boards, somebody will rush to post the explanation that was explained someplace else (or just give an excuse).

Then there are people who still deny that any contradictions exist between the trilogies (though I admit these folks have gotten quieter of late... which might have something to do with the fact that all the DVD's are out and everyone can see for themselves).

This post has been edited by KurganX: 17 November 2005 - 04:10 AM

[barend]

I'm sure i've brought it up here somewhere...


maybe obi-wan made him a cup of coffee and some point.





and besides which, what clone war?

ep2. clones fight droid army for 20 minutes.

ep.3 clones kill the jedi without a fight.

where was the war?
(the @#$%ing cartoon?!? that's cheap!)

This post has been edited by barend: 18 November 2005 - 12:23 AM

[Stray nerf]

I'm sure a saw the two playing table tennis.... that would solve it.

Please stop brining these types of things up , as my enjoyment of the OT is being compromised at this point whenever I hear dialog that no longer makes sense.

let that be a lesson to you young filmakers to be.... Make your frikkin movies IN ORDER.

[barend]

or at least write them in order...



or at least watch the originals as part of the preperation for making prequels OR sequels...



(people who made highlander2 i'm looking at you)

[KurganX]

I'm sure a saw the two playing table tennis.... that would solve it.

I may use this one. Brilliant!

[Otal Nimrodi]

Yeah. I hardly ever use LOL unless I really am laughing out loud, but I was, so... LOL.

[StarWarsIsUs]

"[...]or at least write them in order...



or at least watch the originals as part of the preperation for making prequels OR sequels...



(people who made highlander2 i'm looking at you) [...]"


Was Highlander 2's storyline completely ignored by the next Highlander movies? I heard that they retconned the whole thing afterwards.

[barend]

in the first one they were immortals...

Highlander 1

the french scottsman: Why are we immortal?
the scottish spainiard: Why ish the shky blue? Why ish the ocshean wet? We jusht are!

Highlander 2 (flash back to conversation)

the french scottsman: Why are we immortal?
the scottish spainiard: Do You remember back on the planet scharosh, we were prishoners on that dune looking planet while victor from total recall was whiping us! but then we scored some lashzer riflesh and blashted out way to freedom... then the shent us here...

[Dorothy]

barend, you should type like that all the time.

[StarWarsIsUs]

LMAO! Awesome, barend!

[KurganX]

Well after watching the DVD (including the deleted scenes)... though not EVERY behind the scenes feature, I think I've seen enough to say with confidence that this is never explained.

I guess this is a genuine oversight on Lucas's part. We could rationalize it by saying that Leia doesn't really remember (she's repeating stories she heard as a kid that aren't fully true) or that she's just fudging the facts in desperation to butter Obi-Wan up in her plea for help.

"Served my father" in the sense of being "on his side" in some sense at the very end. A metaphorical stretch, but oh well!

Many of these contradictions can be rationalized this way... exaggeration, lying or forgetfulness on the part of characters.

I like CE's explanation that everyone had their memories erased, like Threepio.

[barend]

barend, you should type like that all the time.

ish it shexshy?

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obi wan served princess lieas father in the sense that anyone on his side basically did...

you know...

BECAUSE HE WAS A KING!!!!

'Bail' must mean 'king' the same way 'grand mof' means 'prime minister' and the same way 'midichlorians' means 'fuck you!'

[Dorothy]

It'sh terribly shexshy.

Princess Leia's foster folks probably lied to her. "Sure, honey... General Kenobi worked for daddy." "Yes, sweety, you are a real princess." "Of course Auntie Jarjar is really a relative."