Do or do not, there is no try?
#1
Posted 19 November 2005 - 12:46 PM
But damnit Luke, you better not the hell give up! That's not the Jedi way.
Also didn't everyone love it infinity times better when the Emperor was a cunning political manipulator, a sower of deciet and lies, the corrupt head of government. Rather than some wildly pirouetting, mindlessly cackling, mid air spinning, lightsaber missle, jedi destroyer?
#3
Posted 19 November 2005 - 02:20 PM
Even in ESB he is nothing special. And despite what people think, he's a horrible teacher. Luke isn't able to lift the X-Wing out of the swamp on his first try, so Yoda does it himself. What kind of teacher is that? I'm actually studying to become a teacher right now and if I ever face a situation where my students can't get something on the first try , I don't see how completing the task for them would help them learn anything.
No wonder the guy went into exile. He must of realized he was toxic to the universe.
#4
Posted 19 November 2005 - 04:37 PM
Yoda, he is awsomely cool, he would have killed dooku if he hadnt had to save obi wan and anakin. and losing to palpatine isnt that bad, he is incredibly strong. also, luke was hatin on yoda. yoda wanted to show luke that it wasnt impossible and that size matters not.
#7
Posted 19 November 2005 - 11:17 PM
We know little more or perhaps less about Yoda and Obi Wan by extension thanks to the non-effort of the PT and we perhaps never will get any origins of substance from GL. Furthermore, the action onscreen causes one to lose whatever respect we had for the characters of the OT by the end of the PT, with Obi's riding a giant lizard, Yoda/Sonic, etc. Even though the Emperor sounded like a used car salesman toward the end of ROTJ< there was the hope that the sinister mannerism with which he carried himself whould be ample material to draw from for a kickin' prequel, but it was not to be. What motivated Palpatine except the vague quest for "power"? Was he abused by Gungans as a kid, so he decided to become an Intergalactic Emperor in the hopes of building a death Star to wipe the bastards out once and for all? The mind boggles at the lost opportunities.....
#9
Posted 20 November 2005 - 01:02 AM
YODA: "When 900 years old YOU reach, look as good YOU will not! Unless a Multibillionaire doffus with a fetish for flannel shirts takes your dignity away with a Prequel Trilogy and really bad CGI renderings of you....."
#10
Posted 20 November 2005 - 02:23 AM
Is Yoda thinking of his own failure when he tells Luke "there is no try"? When he levitates the X-wing for Luke, is he proving to himself that he still has some power left?
I always thought it was necessary for Luke to see that it *could* be done, since an important part of his training was breaking down the preconceived notions of reality that he had built up over the years.
#11
Posted 20 November 2005 - 12:53 PM
It would have been okay if Yoda lifted the X-wing out of the swamp and then put it back into the swamp. This would have helped break down Luke's "preconceived notions of reality" and also would have forced him to have learned how to do it. By Yoda doing the job for Luke, it essentially paves the way for Luke to travel down "the quick and easy path". If Luke actually had to lift the X-Wing out of the swamp, that would have been a more a longer and more difficult path.
#12
Posted 20 November 2005 - 01:30 PM
PM me, we'll talk.
#13
Posted 20 November 2005 - 01:47 PM
"Only a sith deals in absolutes!"
"Do or Do not, there is no try"
It appears that Yoda was evidently also a Sith in disguise. Fuck George, could you have at least watched your films before you vomited up your new scripts.
This post has been edited by Zoring: 20 November 2005 - 01:48 PM
#14
Posted 20 November 2005 - 08:48 PM
Even in ESB he is nothing special. And despite what people think, he's a horrible teacher. Luke isn't able to lift the X-Wing out of the swamp on his first try, so Yoda does it himself. What kind of teacher is that? I'm actually studying to become a teacher right now and if I ever face a situation where my students can't get something on the first try , I don't see how completing the task for them would help them learn anything.
No wonder the guy went into exile. He must of realized he was toxic to the universe.
i'm glad you actually said all that...
i agree...
but worse than that...
it was a peice of technology submerged in mud.
If anything, raising the X-Wing out of the swamp should have been the First lesson.
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