This post has been edited by Sagacity: 09 June 2005 - 02:47 PM
The Big Secret If Anakin and Padme were found out...
#1
Posted 09 June 2005 - 02:47 PM
#2
Posted 09 June 2005 - 06:44 PM
Quite frankly the abstinence of the jedi counsel didn't give the clairvoyance to figure out dokuu, palpatine, and ankian were evil...
it didn't improve their intuitiveness to the capacity to for see order 66...
etc. etc. etc.
having been in relationships, in love, and doing all the nasty thangs affiliated with it, i have still retained the ability to catch people lying, perform in combat unhindered, and notice really obvious conspiracies, etc.
So what's the point?
If anything i think the collective sexual frustration and emotional loneliness were the primary contributors to the down fall of the republic...
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#4
Posted 09 June 2005 - 07:54 PM
Back to the question, in the PT world if Anankin and Padme were found out, Anakin would probably have been expelled from the jedi order. Would have been good for everybody me thinks.
Ofcourse why dosn't Yoda and/or Obi-wan find out that Anakin and Padme are in love? I mean, he drops enough hints at obi-wan, and almost directly confronts Yoda with it in Ep III. They should have figured it out...
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#5
Posted 10 June 2005 - 12:17 AM
they probably just thought that the secret bit was padme's idea, becuase she was embarresed by him.
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#6
Posted 10 June 2005 - 12:41 AM
it didn't improve their intuitiveness to the capacity to for see order 66...
etc. etc. etc.
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#8
Posted 10 June 2005 - 08:52 PM
What? No commentary on efficacy?
#10
Posted 10 June 2005 - 09:09 PM
I don't think it was the fact that she was pregnant as much as it was a pregnancy that would appear out of wedlock. Unless, of course, she was to admit she had secretly married a Jedi and then you'd have a brilliant scandal. Or Palpatine could have leaked the news if Anakin decided not to join him. You know how much governing bodies like to claim their loyalties to traditional family values.
#11
Posted 11 June 2005 - 01:55 AM
#12
Posted 11 June 2005 - 11:03 AM
Lucas needed tension so he basically ripped of "The Thornbirds" and threw in the "holy man forbidden to love" angle. Except like everything else in the new movies, that plotline was handled with Lucas' typical bull in a chinashop approach, so if there ever was any depth to the story- it got immediately crushed by the bad writing and pacing, etc.
Lucas made a big mistake by turning the Jedi into monks. They went from being heroic and mysterious to being sanctimonious, lecturing dullards. I think in a way they Jedi now represent Lucas himself- boring know-it-alls who sit in judgement of anyone who doesn't do things the way they think is right. Lucas probably sees himself as bastion of purity in this hellbound society of ours, but the truth is that HE'S the one who doesn't fit in and if his real life is anything like his cinematic vision, then he must be the lonliest man on earth.
#13
Posted 13 June 2005 - 01:09 AM
I still remember the marketing campaign for AOTC - "forbidden love". He obviously wanted people to think in Romeo and Juliet terms, and he concocted the idea that it is forbidden for Jedi to love. It also supplied some dreariedst dinner dialogue between the leading characters I have ever heard.
For ROTS he used similar stupid ploy that "I have to turn to the dark side to save Padme, because I can't live without her", threw in a couple of dream sequencers and the gushers now go ooooooh, he has a premonition, and look what happened to his mother - the premonitions were true then, so they must be now...
Now what I cannot figure is why nobody knew! They openly live together, in a suite which has completely transparent windows (we can see Padme combing her her from the OUTSIDE), she is a higly placed polititian and nobody notices anything, not even when they kiss and embrace in public? Didn't they have press there? Seems like not only does the old republic lacked in medical technology (no ultrasonic testing), but it did not have any media, either.
#14
Posted 13 June 2005 - 10:02 AM
One could say the same about most emotions. I can name similar arguements for sadness, boredom, envy, disgust and others. But I guess that Hate, Anger, and now love, apparently take prioirty in avoidance.
#15
Posted 13 June 2005 - 12:46 PM
On the button. He also wanted to show that Anakin would put his personal feelings and ego above the Jedi order.
I still can't figure out however why Obi Wan, who lectured Anakin about his nasty thoughts for Padme and who also reminded Anakin that his duty was to the Jedi Order and not rescuing Padme when she fell of that ship in Attack of the Clones, why he allowed Anakin to escort Padme on his ownsome, at the end of the film. For god's sake he SAW,