why is yoda such a pussy? why did he turn tail and run?
#3
Posted 23 May 2005 - 06:18 PM
#4
Posted 23 May 2005 - 06:25 PM
He couldn't have killed Palpatine because Palpatine was destined to appear in later episodes. It's called fill-in-the-holes scriptwriting, and it may just be a category at next year's Academy Awards. Finally, GL will get the respect he covets.
#5
Posted 23 May 2005 - 06:31 PM
#6
Posted 23 May 2005 - 06:36 PM
I dunno maybe it is just me but did anyone else hear the words "into exile I must go, empire strikes back I do appear, need much makeup I do"
#7
Posted 23 May 2005 - 06:39 PM
true, the fight is there to merely appease the fanboys.
yoda knew about the clones betrayal before he confronted the emperor, so, i don't think that was the reason...
but if they're going to show the fight, why not have it make sense? it would have been way better if the emperor, not yoda, had been forced to escape to save his life.
boy, GL has sure ruined yoda's credibility in these prequels, imo.
#8
Posted 23 May 2005 - 06:41 PM
Besides, my point is that the outcome is pre-ordained. GL couldn't kill off Palp and he had to make Yoda look like a bad ass for the kids (this isn't your dad's yoda marketing campaign) at least for a short while.
Like evertything else in this film it felt contrived and looked like a hurried jigsaw puzzle
#9
Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:04 PM
Besides, my point is that the outcome is pre-ordained. GL couldn't kill off Palp and he had to make Yoda look like a bad ass for the kids (this isn't your dad's yoda marketing campaign) at least for a short while.
Like evertything else in this film it felt contrived and looked like a hurried jigsaw puzzle
sorry, man... please use the [sarcasm] [/sarcasm] tags in the future...
i seriously want an answer to this. i know the emperor must live; but why end the fight in this particular way...?
#10
Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:06 PM
GL approved Stover's assertion that Yoda had lost because the Jedi had prepared for the wrong war -- the clone war -- while the Sith were secretly preparing to fight the Jedi. Not only had Yoda lost the physical battle, but the Jedi Order had lost. It's a romantic and literary POV.
Something that didn't make it into the film was the fact that Yoda was communing with Qui-Gon, who offered to teach Yoda how to become one with the force. In a pretty interesting scene in the book, Yoda submits to Qui-Gon and requests that he become Qui-Gon's apprentice. A nice, humbling, literary, and romantic POV. Supposedly, this is how Yoda is able to teach Obi-Wan how to "become even more powerful" than Vader could have imagined. It's a decent counter point to the Sith offer of immortality.
To get on technical side of things, Yoda and Sidious Force pushed each other, ending the lightsaber fight. Then it was "throwing" things at each other. Neither actually lost the lightsaber fight. Yoda had to save his skin (admittedly) from the clone troopers, while Sidious had an appointment with a charred apprentice.
#11
Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:08 PM
Emporer Palpatine thought Yoda had been killed. Since he had assumed all the Jedi were killed, he probably didn't focus on security around himself. Catching Palpatine off guard was the only advantage Yoda had.
Basically Yoda had once chance to kill him. That's it. The instant Palpatine was given the opporunity to call for security, Yoda would have been completely outnumbered by clone troopers.
Yoda failed.
#12
Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:15 PM
i'm sorry that scene was cut in the film... that was always one of my favorite lines from the OT:
"you can't win, darth. if you strike me down, i will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
thanks for the explanation, njamilla.
#13
Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:22 PM
that's it, he lost were you expecting hari-kari by yoda?
#14
Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:31 PM
that's it, he lost were you expecting hari-kari by yoda?
i certainly was not expecting him to just quit, that's for sure.
maybe it was because the emperor "had the higher ground". oh well.
#15
Posted 23 May 2005 - 08:21 PM
Yoda could have had Obi-wan help him against Palpatine. I mean was really no reason to fight each of the bad guys seperately.