General: "It's fun to shoot some people!" Friday, February 4, 2005
#46
Posted 07 February 2005 - 08:48 PM
I dishonor soldiers and marines because I love to kill, because I enjoy it? Where have i said, in any of my posts that I love me some murder! Don't twist my words around.
"You came into this group spouting about killing families and you get what you deserve, even the retarded general never suggested we kill the wife-slapper's wife."
I stated that I would take exactly what they took from me. It would be okay for them to take my family, but I have to turn the other cheek? This is a moot point anyway. I was referring to Hammurabi's code you shallow and blind fool. I am sorry I chose to be a bit more original in my posts than going the route of liberally borrowing someone elses words to do the speaking for me.
#47
Posted 07 February 2005 - 08:59 PM
yes, here is a good example of shallow:
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#48
Posted 07 February 2005 - 09:31 PM
Although Hammurabi's code isn't a very just system. You kill someone's family so they get to kill yours? What did that person's family due to deserve your wrath?
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#49
Posted 07 February 2005 - 10:15 PM
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P.S. Is that shallow enough for you?
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#50
Posted 07 February 2005 - 10:35 PM
but, i would like to know what noble cause was the catalist for the use of agent orange. crop dusted over acres and miles of civillian territory, causeing generations of birth defects, abnormalities, and mutations in viatnamese farmers, workers, families.
who's legacy did it serve to destroy their lives?
hiroshima? how many military instilations where there? what purpose did those civilain souls serve as melted corpses and lukemia victims in generations to come?
don't get me wrong, i have freinds who are soldiers. but the US has a lot to answer for in the numbers crunched under the great war machine that is america. they cannot be defended...
and nor can any individual soldier personally answer for it.
and when i see interviews with soldiers asking why they are in Iraq, after seeing so much needless damage, it gives me some faith that humanity can still be obtained under the worst leadership!
but i think people have a right to be angry about this bullshit...
and enjoying killing civilians is not fucking right!!!
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#51
Posted 07 February 2005 - 10:50 PM
The point this general was trying to make, or maybe I was trying to make, is that getting a high out of killing enemy troops is not that big a deal. You see it all the time in movies, you hear it from impromtu interviews with soldiers, you see it in those Desert Storm video recordings of pilots after they shoot a mig out of the sky "oh boy, I got one". Does that make them sadistic? Maybe latter on in life they might reflect on it and have different feelings. But in the moment, in the heat of battle I don't think it's perverse for soldiers to grab a thrill from killing the enemies. It's probably natural. Most of you believe in evolution, view it as your primordial instinct. And in the heat of the moment, you're probably going to fall back on your most primitive instincts.
If I was in a war, and had people shooting at me, I'd probably shoot back, and if I killed one, at the time, I'd probably feel a sense of accomplishment, since that is why I'm out there. That is war, kill the enemy.
I'm not sure why every one is getting all touchy about it. You can't implement peace time values in war time (especially in the middle of a fucking battle). And if soldiers like bragging about all the frags they get, then whatever, their lives suck, let them take pride in something.
And again, you can't jump and say that they'd also love killing civillians. It's silly. I've heard more cases of Insurgents and 'freedom fighters' killing innocent blood then I have of American soldiers. But I'm sure it's all a cover up. Let's all speculate.
This post has been edited by Jordan: 07 February 2005 - 10:53 PM
#52
Posted 07 February 2005 - 11:09 PM
Hey man, the people I was marching with in DC are fighting for our country and fighting to save the lives of our soliders and some innocent Iraqis. The people at Kent State died fighting for their country, and guess what, noone had to tell them to do it!
The terrorists are Saudis and Syrians. Perhaps 10-20% max of the fighters in Iraq are foreign. The other eighty percent are Iraqis, largely Sunnis and some of them are indeed former Baath party. However there are also various Shiite freedom fighters as well adn tehy are allied with the Sunni resistance such as when they aided the great city of Faluja before the US massacred it.
Iraqis are shot EVERY SINGLE DAY at checkpoints for no reason than that they drive too fast. Bombs fall on Iraqi homes at least once a week. Iraqis die of malnutrition, dysentary, or other ailments due to the coalitions inability to provide water or food. 100000 Iraqis are dead. 365 days to a year 3 years of occupation thats what eighty Iraqis murdered a day? There couldnt have been 100000 insurgents so who do you think most of that number are? Civilians, asshat. And theres also horrendous torture going on at Guantanamo and bases in Afghanistan and that IS representative of the whole military, it is not just a few bad apples.
Because it desensitizes them to death of others who are affiliated with the "bad guys" remember when American soldiers used to murder whole villages of Indians because they were all "savages"? That lable didnt only apply to the men, Jordan, and its obviously the same in Iraq.
Morale booster Jordan, the word is MORALE. There's an E on it. Using a different word in that sentence was completely wrong and made you look like an idiot.
I already references that if I enjoy killing a fly thats bothering me whats to stop me from killing a fly that isnt bothering me. Answer that.
I note this because it bears a resemblance to one of Jordan's posts coming up.
America is at war with the insurgents. America will always be at war with the insurgents. Jordan, I'm glad to see you've been attending the two minutes hate.
I also thoroughly agree with Barend. America commits horrific acts of aggressive genocide and has for the past fifty years. The BPP and the Black Bloc and the Young Lords party do more to protect freedom than the US army does.
Also, one thing we should all notice. This general asshole has NEVER shot anyone. I promise. Hes full of it. He dosnt "brawl" hes wearing fucking stars! The asshole is a general! Where does he get off trying to act like he's EVER seen combat?
This post has been edited by J m HofMarN: 07 February 2005 - 11:13 PM
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#53
Posted 07 February 2005 - 11:20 PM
that's what it is to be human... we're built for combat.
but if i were out in the middle of nowhere pulling guys out of their home just cause they were "of military age" and detaining them and torturing them.
edit: jm posted at the same time and beat me...
This post has been edited by barend: 07 February 2005 - 11:24 PM
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#54
Posted 07 February 2005 - 11:23 PM
Hey buddy, you got a dead cat in there or what?
a.or what
b.yes
c.no
d.fuck you asshole
e.no its a dog
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#55
Posted 07 February 2005 - 11:25 PM
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#56
Posted 07 February 2005 - 11:52 PM
It's human nature. It's adrenaline. You can't fight it.
You people are so immature. Hannibal and JM insult me left and right. I'm an idiot JM? I can't spell? Ya, lets play that game.
I'm sick of this crap. I no longer derive joy from this. I dont' need to be insulted online. I can get that from my customers at work.
This post has been edited by Jordan: 07 February 2005 - 11:53 PM
#57
Posted 08 February 2005 - 12:07 AM
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#58
Posted 08 February 2005 - 12:29 AM
this is just going to get ugly...
+ i think you all know how i feel about the spelling nitpick argument...
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#59
Posted 08 February 2005 - 01:19 AM
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#60
Posted 08 February 2005 - 01:31 AM
well...to be honest, its not like you had him tied up, naked, and shoved a glowstick up his...
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