6DAS Spoilers
#63
Posted 25 January 2007 - 09:25 PM
I'm not really sure if the "Last Trilby" was the original. Some people wanted to nkow how he survived 200 years. Well, he didn't. But he was in Chzo, which is a timeless place.
Anyway, thanks, Yahtzee. But it'd be cool if YOU could give us a short (i.e. 5 or 6 page) plot summary? Thanks.
#64
Posted 25 January 2007 - 09:31 PM
It said that "Obviously, he could not do that [create the bridge] IF he was long since dead of old age." (emphasis mine) As far as I can tell, it was the cult just saying that they knew Trilby would die eventually, perhaps of old age. Honestly, though, I do hope he died of old age. I really do.
#65
Posted 25 January 2007 - 09:42 PM
Ha ha no. Ambiguity fosters debate. And I want people to discuss my story and think about it so it remains virally in their subconscious like a fat warty toad.
Besides, I'm saving some truths for the special edition commentary. Also, a "short" 5-6 pages?! If that's how you classify "short" you must live in giant land from Mario 3.
#67
Posted 25 January 2007 - 11:38 PM
I'm pretty sure the cloned Trilbies (which seems to be the canonical spelling of the plural "Trilby") were able to be created because of the REAL Trilby's blood being acquired by the Tall Man in Trilby's Notes. You may recall... "We have the blood of the Guide."
llamaman... didn't the final Trilby clone use the barrel of petrol to set the Mind of John DeFoe aflame? I'm pretty sure that the Caretaker told him to use it, but since I only played through the game once, I may need to check on that.
I also think it's fairly obvious the Trilby that was killed by Somerset/Caretaker was the final clone, because as far as we know the real Trilby never crossed over fully into the Magick realm... but you can plainly see the clone there at the end.
I agree with Blueskirt, I think that Chzo's plan was to create an endless cycle of agony. Since the Caretaker was basically an infinite loop, he had to perpetuate the constant pain in order to exist.
Personally, I am not sure about the whole "this Prince is better than the other Prince" stuff. The way I saw it, Cabadath had served his purpose in the eye (heh) of Chzo and was simply discarded for the tool that he was. Since the New Prince was the reason Somerset/Caretaker could not simply walk back the way he came, he was forced to continue the cycle by plummeting down the pit, and therefore Cabadath had to be replaced -- or the cycle may not have continued... very cyclical, that.
Of course, since I'm not Yahtzee, I have absolutely no proof that any of this is correct. It's just my best guess. Hello to all of you.
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#68
Posted 25 January 2007 - 11:44 PM
That fake religion? Is it a play on Scientology? It sounds like it o_o
Anyways, great game, though I'd have to say it's not the best in the series.
Almost certainly, asides from the similar name Optimology is mentioned as being a money making front as well as being popular with celebrities. Maybe that means a lawsuit is coming
There was a number on one of the walls.. 287 I think it was, and I thought I saw that same number in the alternative realm in Trilby's notes. What is the significance of this?
#71
Posted 26 January 2007 - 02:41 AM
Yeah, that made me laugh. It's not entirely clear when the majority of Countdown Part 2 takes place, since the January date is given during the dream sequence at the beginning, but it's certainly been just... sitting down there. Next to the room that (used to) hold the Order's Big Treasure. Maybe gas is really really expensive in 2189, so the Order was hoarding it.
Oh, and, another random question to throw into the mix - Does anyone have any idea what Malcolm's visions as he descends into Chzo mean? I assume he's already dead or dying by this point (assuming that inserting Frehorn's Blade into the door of flesh was actually him inserting it into himself), but why does he live through DeFoe's murders of his crewmates (besides, possibly, Yahtzee thinking it funny to trick the player into thinking they're looking at DeFoe's destruction, when it's actually the Captain's death in reverse)? And is there any significance to the red robes/bald head? The red might be his blood spreading over his body from the self-inflicted wounds, but why bald?
#73
Posted 26 January 2007 - 03:34 AM
Anyone else thought that Somerset would look like a Krishna priest if his robe were orange, and not blood red?
EDIT: This forum needs post alarms that tell me when people reply to a post I'm replying to.
This post has been edited by David-kyo: 26 January 2007 - 03:35 AM
#74
Posted 26 January 2007 - 04:32 AM
What do you mean by this?
Nope.
So many subjects and theories discussed at the same time, I can't wait until the wow effect is off and we start going thoroughly into every points of the game.
#75
Posted 26 January 2007 - 04:44 AM
What do you mean by this?
Theodore Dacabe=>
CabadEth... ode ore? doe roe? I'm a bit shaky on the leftover letters, but he was pointing out that the name cabadath is almost anagrammed into his name.
Which if he's supposed to be a reincarnation, or somesuch, that raises further questions.
This post has been edited by llamaman: 26 January 2007 - 04:47 AM