History Channel Documentary-thingy Makes me not hate Lucas so much
#1
Posted 12 March 2006 - 08:48 PM
#3
Posted 13 March 2006 - 11:11 AM
If I were standing anywhere near you in real life, I'd give you a standing ovation. It all started with Lucas' dream. I saw the same documentary and if I remember right, 20th Century Fox was the only company that would help Lucas out in making Star Wars. That would be like myself creating an animation (which I am into doing) for myself and having it become an overnight success. The only dream I had would to be able to make my dream visible for everyone else to enjoy. The money Lucas made was just a benefactor of being successful. I understand why we had to wait so long between trilogies, too. It had a lot to do with his ex-wife.
You're absolutely right, ion. He never did it for the money. He nearly went broke in the 16 years between doing the OT and the PT.
#4
Posted 26 March 2006 - 06:16 PM
#5
Posted 29 March 2006 - 06:39 PM
Who cares about who shoots first? Greedo can't hit the broad side of a barn. Even if Han Solo didn't shoot first, he hit Greedo before Greedo could hit him. That's what GL wanted. It would be a pretty boring movie without Han Solo, don't you think? It's the timeless cliche: The good guy can't die in the first half of the movie.
#7
Posted 30 March 2006 - 08:44 AM
It changes the character arc of Han Solo. In the original film, that scene shows him as a badass who will KILL before some scumbag has a CHANCE to do it to him. But Mr. "I always wanted it that way" changed his mind and decided he wanted a "kinder, gentler" Han.
You have NO idea if that's true, BASED ON THE ORIGINAL SCENE. You see a Han who doesn't fuck around with taking such a chance. He kills the bastard without hesitation.
He changed what he wanted and LIED about doing so, and you've said NOTHING that shows otherwise.
Exactly how does your redundant repeating of this cliche require a change in the scene that Lucas ORIGINALLY WROTE?
This post has been edited by sargon1955: 30 March 2006 - 08:48 AM
#9
Posted 30 March 2006 - 12:20 PM
In the original film, I never thought he was a good or bad shot - a bit niave perhaps in not making Han show his hands, but certianly not the colossal fuck-up everyone percieved him as being after the new editions came out.
#10
Posted 30 March 2006 - 02:04 PM
And some people eat it up.
#11
Posted 30 March 2006 - 08:01 PM
#12
Posted 30 March 2006 - 08:30 PM
#14
Posted 03 April 2006 - 10:39 PM
Lucas went nuts on the whole "Director's cut" concept. Some revisions should be allowed: the recut of TOUCH OF EVIL was based on 97 pages of notes Orwell wrote for the editor, notes that the Producers held on to while a shorter version was released; the voiceovers in BLADE RUNNER were added only on request from the Producers who wanted a more direct connection to the noir tradition, etc. BUt Lucas took this idea into whole new territory, adding sounds and images never conceived before, and even shooting new scenes to tie the series in with the prequels.
All the way to the end, I support Lucas in his vision, his realisation of a dream, and his triumph over whatever adversities he may have faced as an upper-middle-class college boy looking to become an upper-class filmmaker. But I won't go so far as to pretend to believe his lies. A simple "I changed my mind" would have been sufficient for a man of my intelligence. "That was a mistake in the editing," or "we missed Greedo's shot when adding the special effects" are such transparent bullshit that it insults the intelligence even of incredibly credulous people. Anyone even remotely copnnected to filmmaking knows that a director will have seen the film about 100 times before its release. Folks not at all connected can probably guess. There is no way he didn't notice that Greedo hadn't shot first. Also, the rough mercenary is a part of the Western tradition, and the American Wester is a strong influence on the whole Tatooine sequence. I can't believe folks fall for the revisionism. Lucas should genuinely try running a religion.
#15
Posted 04 April 2006 - 10:06 AM
This post has been edited by sargon1955: 04 April 2006 - 10:11 AM